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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Matt R on Thursday 08 March 07 17:54 GMT (UK)
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Hi there, Im lloking up the Owens family of County Down and Tyrone, who moved to Lanarkshire 1880-4. Im interested in anybody who could possibly look up for me death certificates of Owens children. I know of Mary Ann, Elizabeth, Catherine, but i know there were more, im particularly interested in a John, Jospeh and Peter Owens. Id be grateful if anyone could find for me their death certificates, or even marriage certificates, with Bernard Owens and Eliza Fox listed as their parents.
Aso on the lookout for a Mary Ann McDonald on the 1891 census. She would be aged roughly 27, a Widow, she would be living with her son Francis (Frank), aged 1 and a bit!
Thanks
Matthew
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Hi Matthew,
Could this be your Mary Ann and Frank in 1901.
Elizabeth Owens...age ..47..brn Ireland..
Mary Ann Owens...daughter..age 27..brn Ireland..laundry worker
Joseph Owens..son..age 11...brn Ireland
Frank McDonald..grandson..age 2..brn Glasgow
They were living at 77 Piccadilly Street, Barony, Glasgow
Hope this helps,
Susan
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Thanks Susan, all the ages and dates fit...if this was the 1891 census. Ive found Mary Ann in the 1901 census? Is the one youve given me the 1891 or 1901 census?
Regards and thanks for the info!
Matthew
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Hi Matthew, sorry that was the 1891 census. It was late and my brain was closing down...lol
Good luck with your research,
Susan
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Thanks Susan, now i know for sure this is my family!!
I know Joseph was in Scotland in 1891, so I can get his death certificate and try to find out if he had a family of his own who i can contact!!
Thanks again and regards
Matthew
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Hi Susan me again...!
Ive just found out from my nan Mary Ann had a sister Catherine who married in Belfast 1880, to a Chalres McMillan. Could you check for me the 1901 census for Lanark for a Peter McMillan, aged 5 (+/- 1 year), I know he would be living with his mother Catherine. His fathers name was Charles McMillan but Charles may have did, cant be sure, but Catherine was definelty still alive.
Regards and thanks again for the previous searches!
Matthew
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If Charles was still alive he wouldve been a Seaman/Master Blutha.
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Another request if Im not beginning to sound cheeky Susan :-\
On the lookout for a John Devaney, aged around 49, possible residence is Pottery Street in Greenock.
Matthew
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The John Devaney lookup is for the 1891 census! OOPS!
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Hi Matthew,
Sorry I dont have access to 1901 census..but you can look it up on Scotlands people..it costs but you can see the original image.
As for John Devaney...do you have any more details about him?...eg where he was born..any other names that might be in his household..occupation? This makes it easier to find him and to rule out wrong entries. Had a quick look for one that age in Greenock but couldnt see one.
Susan
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Hi Susan, afraid not, all I have that he was the son of james and Agnes Devaney, it might be that to find him it may be at a young age with his family, he married into a very strong Irish family in Scotland, he may have been born there, other than that, I cant be sure, sorry.
Regards
Matthew
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Hi Matthew , Sorry but cant find him anywhere. Hopefully someone might have the census where you can search by address and at least check out if he is pottery street for you.
Good luck with your research,
Susan
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Thanks Susan, he's elusive I'll give him that!
Thankyou for your time youve been a star!
Matthew
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Hi Matthew, I was spending my hard earned cash ( oops that should be hubbys hard earned lol) on Scotlands People looking for my Elizabeth Owens marriage and came across yours lol. Just wondered if you had all details, If not will be glad to pass them on. Also I have access to the census 1841 - 1901 Scotland on Ancestry would be glad to help.
Maz
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Hi Maz, chers for the offer, appreciated! I have Elizabeth's death certificate, but not her marriages. She first married James Rice, then James Carey. I dont know where they married, probably either Glasgow (possibly Anderston), or Holytown (Lanarkshire in general).
Elizabeth and James Rice married before 1901, as I have the family on the census there. Thanks for helping me with my research,
matthew ;D
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Hi Matthew, No problem I'm going round in circles with my Owens's at the moment.
If you want to p.m your e-mail addy I can send you the image. It is Elizabeth Rice M.S Owens to James Carey. Both widowed. 26th April 1907 St Francis, Carfin
Maz
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Hi Matthew, Found on free pages, Bernard Owens, regt. Downpatrick : husband of Eliz Fox, father of Peter, b. 25 Nov 1869.
Dont know if you have this info.
Did you get my message on Genes.
Maz
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Hi maz, I did have the info but funnily enough the Downpatrick bit is a suprise, but it fits in with where Ive found the family !
Waaaay!
Thanks for the lookup!
Matt :)
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hi pal
1881 census- campbelltown
charles mcmillan...age 23...sailor...born campbelltown
caterine...age 21...born ire
1891 census- 21 catherine street, anderson, glasgow
catherine...age 28
charles...age 10...born campbelltown
elizabeth...age 9...born campbelltown
margaret...age 7...born campbelltown
john...age 5...born glasgow
catherine...age 3...born glasgow
christina...age 9 months...born glasgow
margaret mcgrory...age 24...lodger...dressmaker...co donegall
1901 census- 13 kinning street, tradeston
charles...age 44...master of the c n clutha
catherine...age 38
charles...age 20...wood turner
elizabeth...age 18...clyde navigation turnstile collector...campbelltown
margaret...age 16...domestic servant
thomas...age 7...born glasgow
mary...age 6...born glasgow
peter...age 5...born glasgow
george...age 1...born glasgow
Joe
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Good lord Joe, thats amazing! Thankyou so much.!!! ;D
That was a nice suprise!
Charles'occupation in 190 is listed as "master of the c n clutha"
Do you know anything about that? Sounds like a ship master or something...a strange thing on a census!
Also, the 1881 census says Charles was born Campelltown. He married 1880 to Catherine in Befast, so maybe it originally was his idea to bring Castherine and all her family to Scotland. Himmm. Time to ponder :)
Cheers for the info Joe. Huge help theres loads of kids here I didnt know existed!
Matt :)
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HI Matthew,
Look at the link, http://www.rootschat.com/links/01v5/
it is the Govan story and tells about the Clyde Navigation ferries called Clutha's or penny Steamers.
Coluld the c n clutha be Clyde Navigation Clutha?
Tom
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Ahh tidybrooks, nice work! Thanks
it fits, and now ive read the page, it would make a lot of sense too :)
Built up quite a little packet of info now :)
Matt :)
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Hi there, new member here.
I'm descended from this line, my great-grandmother is Catherine McMillan, daughter of Bernard Owens and Eliza Fox.
She is the sister to Mary Ann, the great-grandmother of fellow poster Matt R. I would dearly love to be able to be in contact with Matt R.
I think as a new member I have to make a minimum of 3 posts before I can send a PM to Matt R? So I hope you will forgive me for making post #2 here and in the hopes that Matt R might see.
Matt R, if you do see, please contact me.
Many thanks.