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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: kena on Thursday 08 March 07 14:16 GMT (UK)
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Hi, please has anybody got any links to Massey's of Ipstones in 1700's/1600's?
Thanks
Anna
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Hi Anna ,
Long shot i know, but i have Massey's in my family Ihave James Massey brn abt 1828 , unfortunatly i have been unsucesfull in finding anything about him prior to 1851 , so i have no idea if he had sibling's or his mother's name i do know his father was a John Massey (found this from james's marriage cert ) does this ring any bell's ?
you never know ............
regard's gah
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Hello Gah and Anna found this James on 41 census Whiston Ipstone
Thomas Massey 65 labourer
Mariah 25
James 15
Emma 2
next door
Thomas Massey 30 labourer
Martha 30
Thomas 3
John 1
Whiston Bridge Whiston Kingsley Ipstones
HO107 1004/10 fol 12 p 16
Could that be your James as they did round ages up on the 41 census
Isobel
Sorry just reread your reply his father should be John
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Hi gah, thanks very much for the reply, unfortunately the latest Massey I have in my tree is a Mary Massey born 1776 (then going back) so am really sorry but I am unable to help you at the moment, you never know, we might still be related though!
Thanks again
Anna
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I am currently researching 2 sets of Massey families. One from Alstonfield which I have going back to the 1700's and the other from Norbury. What is interesting me is that both these families keep using the name Bartholomew throughout the generations does this name crop up in your Ipstones family Anna??
My Norbury Massey family have lovely names like Sense and Brey (girls names) that run through them.
I know this is a shot in the dark but I've searched on the internet till my fingers are raw and I have to wait till I can get over to Staffordshire next year to search the parish records.
All the best
anjo
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Eyyupp Anna,
my family, CORDEN/cordon/cordan/cawden, originate in Ipstones, (Cordon in your footnotes).
I have a note of a Sarah Massey, m. Robert Massey, Lichfield Cath. 11/2/1751.
Mentioned in Will of Uriah Corden, d. Ashbourne, 1793, also was legatee in Will of Jeremiah Corden.
(Believed sister of Uriah, rel. to Jeremiah not known.
(Not my research, so cannot help further.
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Hi, many thanks for that.
Anna
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Hi I'm sorry to but in but I have just joined your forum and was looking thrugh the Surnames and came accross the one that I am researching - NATTRASS (Annie, Doris) do you have these in your tree / have other names but as I said I am new and may not even find my way back to see your reply :) ::) thanks
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Hello Beechbaby, welcome to the club.
I can't recall the name Natrass in my tree, but a lot of the research was a gift, so I'll trawl through it and see what surfaces
good luck,
Guyana
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Thanks Guyana, hope I got it right (posting to you !!) ??? if not you then if anyone else sees the name Nattrass and can help me I would be delighted. I have just found my birth mother's details (dec'd) and sent for her birth cert. this does not show her father but I have Marriage details of the man she later called father. Thank you also to whoever sent me the email connecting me straight to your reply. I can not seem to find where I start a new request !!!! :-[ could someone please help (I have read the "Getting started" but being a silver surfer I just need a gentle push in the right direction ;D Thank you to whoever in advance.
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There's a lot of 'silvers' about! Don't worry about posting, plenty of people will read it, and the help will flow, as I've already found.
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Hi
This to Ango
Have just seen your post I too have Masseys from Norbury many bearing the names of Bartholomew and Sance and Brey. in fact one of my husbands aunts was Margaret Sance Massey born Hilton House in Hilton in 1896 Sounds like we have the same families. Val.
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Hello Anjo,
I am also looking at the Norbury Masseys. I am interested in Sense's family. Sense, bpt 1741, married William Orpe, an itinerant Methodist preacher, in 1767. Online, there are some letters between William Orpe and John Wesley, in which they discuss William getting married. He left Methodism when he married Sense, though he returned to preaching those beliefs in his later years. I'm wondering if he rejected Methodism in order to marry Sense, who was not of the same faith. Methodists were not supposed to marry out. Are you aware of any non-conformity in the Massey family in the mid 18th century?
Carolyn
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In answer to your question regarding the religious outlook of the Massey family I would suggest a look at some of Sense's relations. Her grandfather John Massey was at the top of a line that moved from Norbury to Swarkestone and then on to Dunmow and Vange in Essex, where some of the family were quite prominent in the Quaker community. Also there was a movement of Masseys from around the Wirral and Cheshire through Derbyshire and on to Ely, and then to Tilbury in the new world, indicating some form of religious dissention.
My interest, though, is tying John Massey (b.1671 in Norbury, d.1740 Swarkestone) into the rest of the Massey family. Once that is done I can start going out sideways along the branches of the family. As it is I have a direct line back to John.
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In answer to your question regarding the religious outlook of the Massey family I would suggest a look at some of Sense's relations. Her grandfather John Massey was at the top of a line that moved from Norbury to Swarkestone and then on to Dunmow and Vange in Essex, where some of the family were quite prominent in the Quaker community. Also there was a movement of Masseys from around the Wirral and Cheshire through Derbyshire and on to Ely, and then to Tilbury in the new world, indicating some form of religious dissention.
My interest, though, is tying John Massey (b.1671 in Norbury, d.1740 Swarkestone) into the rest of the Massey family. Once that is done I can start going out sideways along the branches of the family. As it is I have a direct line back to John.
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My direct ancestors are Masseys from Alstonefield/Ilam in Staffordshire. Recently through wills held by Lichfield Diocese I made the connection to the Masseys of Norbury/Swarkestone. The wills are available through FindMyPast. (Bartholomew Massey died 1771 mentions his brother John of Roston and brother-in-law William Marten of Hilton)
I have traced my 4th cousin 4 times removed as Ada Cecile Granville Wright a prominent suffragette. Her mother was Sarah Jane Massey born in Swarkestone.
Would be interested in seeing how the Masseys of Ipstones tie in.
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Hi Anna
I think my great-great-great-great-great-great grandmother was Anna Massey. She married Thomas Slack in Ipstones in 1708. Thomas was born in 1680. I don't have Anna's birth year, but I think she died in Ipstones in 1756.
Please let me know if this ties in with any of your ancestors.
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I think my GGGGGGM Anna Massey may have been born in Ipstones in 1687 (baptised 1 May). Her parents were Roberti and Annae Massey.
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Hi,
I see that this is quite an old post, but having only just found it, I wonder if anyone is still connected.
John Massey 1671, Norbury and Elizabeth Hawksworth, were my 6x grandparents. I wonder whether anyone here found definitive, or even possible baptism for John?
My Dad's great grandmother was Elizabeth Massey, born Turnditch, daur of John Massey 1795 (a Schoolmaster) and Mary Ford. I have found several DNA matches with descendants of the Ford branch, but not so many for the Masseys. I am always looking for more DNA matches and would be interested to know if anyone here has a DNA test online, especially at Ancestry..
I see that there are several Sance and Sense Masseys, and suspect this is a short version of Innocence, as an Innocence Massey married William Martin 1733 in Swarkestone.
I also have Bray and Bartholomews. I have been unable to find the 1771 will on FindmyPast, though I do have a will from Bartholomew Massey of the Lee in the parish of Norbury, dated 1720.
I would be most interested to see the 1771 will.
All the Best
Phil How
p.s. I just found the 1771 will :)
My interest, though, is tying John Massey (b.1671 in Norbury, d.1740 Swarkestone) into the rest of the Massey family. Once that is done I can start going out sideways along the branches of the family. As it is I have a direct line back to John.
Hi
This to Ango
Have just seen your post I too have Masseys from Norbury many bearing the names of Bartholomew and Sance and Brey. in fact one of my husbands aunts was Margaret Sance Massey born Hilton House in Hilton in 1896 Sounds like we have the same families. Val.
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Hi there Phil,
Just seen your post and the only Sense I see who married a William Martin would have been John (1671-1741) 's daughter. One of the dead end's I have in my family tree is a John Massey, born 1738 in Norbury, who may indeed be the father of your GGGM. Which would make us some sort of cousins.
Tim