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Title: great grandfather
Post by: pensionerpaul on Thursday 01 March 07 11:48 GMT (UK)
hello,
  I am looking for details of EDWIN RAMSDALE, born in 1885 in Wigan. Ihave no reference to any relatives_mother or father, except he may have been adopted by Margaret Oldfield. Was she related in any way?
Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: judi2632 on Thursday 01 March 07 11:58 GMT (UK)
1891 Census

Esther Ramsdale aged 26 Single mother of Edwin Ramsdale aged 6 both born in Wigan
Esther is listed as a Washerwoman living at 20 Burns Yard, Wigan lancashire.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: judi2632 on Thursday 01 March 07 12:03 GMT (UK)
1901

Edwin Ramsdale aged 16 Adopted son  of Margaret Oldfield aged 65 born Leigh Lancashire.

Edwin a Railway Wagon Builder
Margaret a Widowed Shirt Seamstress
Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: judi2632 on Thursday 01 March 07 12:13 GMT (UK)
1891

Margaret Oldfield aged 53 married to Edward Oldfield aged 44 living at 36 Oak St Crewe Cheshire. No Children listed.

May Be Your girl
Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: Pegasuss on Monday 12 March 07 14:44 GMT (UK)
Listings for 'Esther RAMDALE' on 1881 Census Index (at ancestry.co.uk):

RG11/3763, E.D. 8, Folio, 39, Page, 31

6 Bradshaw Street, Wigan, Lanc's

Robert RAMSDALE, Head, Mar, 37Yrs old, Carpenter , Bn Wigan, Lanc's
Rachael RAMSDALE, Wife, Mar, 31Yrs old, Housewife, Bn Orrell, Lanc's
Ellen RAMSDALE, Daut, 16Yrs old, Cotton Weaver    , Bn Wigan, Lanc's
Alice RAMSDALE, Daut, 14Yrs old,                             , Bn Wigan, Lanc's
Thomas RAMSDALE, Son, 7Yrs old, Scholar               , Bn Wigan, Lanc's
ESTHER RAMSDALE, Daut,            ,                            , Bn Wigan, Lanc's
(No Age or Occupation listed on Index for Esther)

Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: Pegasuss on Monday 12 March 07 15:17 GMT (UK)
Found on http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl:

Death

Sept Qtr 1898

Esther RAMSDALE (37Yrs old)

Wigan    8c   26

Also,

Birth

June Qtr 1860

Esther RAMSDALE

Wigan    8c   53
Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: Pegasuss on Monday 12 March 07 15:41 GMT (UK)
Could someone with the index please look Up( in the 1871 Census):

Esther RAMSDALE, Bn C1860 +/-2, Born Wigan, Lancashire, Living: Wigan, Lancashire, Daughter of Robert & Rachael.

I did find the above myself, but I only have a Guest Sub so can't get the Ref details (so, that I can look the entry Up on My 1871 Lancashire Census Discs!).
Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 12 March 07 15:47 GMT (UK)
Hi

       Its RG10-3884-F39-Page 26

peterbennett
Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: Pegasuss on Monday 12 March 07 15:52 GMT (UK)
Peter.

Thank You! (Your a Star!) ;D ;D

Here is what it says:

20 Rigbys Yard, Wigan, Lanc's

James RAMSDALE, Head, Mar, 37Yrs old, Wheelwright
Alice RAMSDALE, Wife, Mar, 35Yrs old
Mary A. RAMSDALE, Daut, UnMar, 16Yrs old, Cotton Mill Hand
Ellen RAMSDALE, Daut, 12Yrs old
Esther RAMSDALE, Daut, 10Yrs old
Joseph RAMSDALE, Son, 6Yrs old
Jane RAMSDALE, Daut, 3Yrs old
Robert RAMSDALE, Son, 6Mths old

All Born Wigan, Lanc's

Not the same Family found on the 1881, maybe Relatives? ::)
Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: peterbennett on Monday 12 March 07 17:15 GMT (UK)
1891 Census

Esther Ramsdale aged 26 Single mother of Edwin Ramsdale aged 6 both born in Wigan
Esther is listed as a Washerwoman living at 20 Burns Yard, Wigan lancashire.

Hope this helps

Try this one. It seems to fit with Judi's

1881 RG11-3764-F8-P9   9 Wellington St Wigan

John Woodmas ? head 65 pawnbroker Dumfries Scotland
Mary wife 59 Liverpool
Esther Ramsdale unmarried 19 domestic servant Wigan.

This makes the 1871 census with James and Alice as parents look like a likely family.

peterbennett

Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: Pegasuss on Monday 12 March 07 17:48 GMT (UK)
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This makes the 1871 census with James and Alice as parents look like a likely family.

It does Indeed Peter! ::) ;)
Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: pensionerpaul on Monday 12 March 07 18:52 GMT (UK)
to all the ROOTSCHATTERS who have given me their research knowledge on Edwin Ramsdale may i say a big thankyou. Icertainly have enough to keep me going this evening.
Paul
Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: brits3 on Friday 14 January 11 11:04 GMT (UK)
Hello my name is Janet Garland (nee Ramsdale)  I am new to this website and have just found out you are searching for my grandfather Edwin Ramsdale. I have lots of information on him and of my great grandmother Esther. THere seems to quite some intrigue in the family. I started over a year ago but it became quite addictive. I know you haven't posted anything since 2007 but perhaps I could fill in the gaps? I am also intrigued why Margaret Oldfield would adopt a 16 year old Edwin who doesn't look as though he has blood ties and Esther did have siblings. But it looks like she wasn't married when she had Edwin  so maybe she was cast out?? Hope to hear from you.  Regards
Title: Re: great grandfather
Post by: Pegasuss on Friday 14 January 11 16:27 GMT (UK)
Brits3.

It looks like Paul has'nt logged in since @November so why don't You try sending him a Personnal Message (P.M.)?

You can do this by clicking on the character in the bottom left of his post!
 ;)