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Title: COMPLETED -- SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: WG on Tuesday 27 February 07 22:06 GMT (UK)

I'm trying to find some info on the parents of Florence Ethel SMITH. She was born 5 Sep 1881 in Lower Green Baildon, Yeardon, Wharfedale, Yorkshire. I know her parents were Richard SMITH and Mary Hannah DRIVER and their marriage was registered Q4 1875 in Bradford, WRY (according to FreeBMD) -- but that's ALL I know about them. Could someone please find Florence Ethel SMITH (age 9) in the 1891 census, then use the household info to find her parents in the other censuses?

Thanks,
 WG

Title: Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 27 February 07 22:14 GMT (UK)

Hi WG

1891 RG12/3673 fol.104 p.10  Lane End Tce, Bramley, Leeds
Richard Smith 40 Painter Bradford
Mary Hannah Smith 40 Leeds
Lilly Smith 14  Shipley
Florence Ethel Smith 10 Scholar Baildon Green
James Albert 7 Scholar  Farsley

I expect you can now find them in 1881, will look for earlier census
Barbara

Title: Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: WG on Tuesday 27 February 07 22:23 GMT (UK)

Thanks Barbara. Yes, I've now found them in the 1881 census. I had seen the record before but wasn't sure it was them because I didn't know Florence had an older sister. Looking forward to seeing what you can find in the other censuses.

 WG

Title: Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 27 February 07 22:29 GMT (UK)

1871  RG10/4561 fol.78 p.3 22 Cathcart St, Leeds
Elizabeth Driver head unm 30 Laundress Yorks Leeds
Jane Clark  boarder     "     29       "            "    Middlewood
Mary H. Driver sister    "     21  Servant      "      Leeds
Lucy Smith   serv.        "     14     "            Notts Whatnall

1861  RG9/3391 fol.44 p.1  20 Dover St, Leeds
Rebecca Driver head widow 29 Dressmaker  Yorks Rothwell
Josephus   "     son              16  Mechanic         "     Leeds
Mary Hannah " dau              11  Scholar            "        "
Benjamin      "   son               9      "                    "       "
James          "       "                6       "                   "       "                      

Title: Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 27 February 07 22:36 GMT (UK)

Rebecca obviously a second wife, wonder if she's this visitor in 1851 ? :

HO107/2321 fol.105 p.34  Gratton St, Leeds
James Driver head mar 37 Dyer  Leeds
Mary      "      wife    "    30           Rothwell
Sarah E  "      dau         12 Scholar  Leeds
Elizabeth "        "          10       "         "
Samuel D "     son          8        "         "
Josephus "      "             6        "         "
Martha     "     dau         4         "         "
Mary H.    "        "           1
Rebecca Wrigglesworth visitor unm 20  Rothwell

Title: Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 27 February 07 22:43 GMT (UK)

and the mysterious Rebecca again!
1841  Florist Street, Leeds  HO107/1349/7 fol.52 p.28
James Driver 25 Packer
Mary       "     20
Sarah      "     2
Elizabeth  "   2 months
Rebecca Wigglesworth 10
all born in county

Death for Mary Dec 1852, James marries Rebecca Wrigglesworth Jun 1853, that was quick!
I suspect finding Richard might not be so easy, being a Smith, but will have a go
Barbara

Title: Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 27 February 07 23:08 GMT (UK)

1871 RG10/4498 fol.24 p.12  55 Hill Top, Shipley, Yorks
Isabella Smith head wid 56  Household Duties   Durham Sunderland
Richard     "     son   unm 20  Painter    Yorks Bradford
John J. Smith    "         "   15  Worsted Skinner (spinner perhaps) Yks Shipley

1861 RG9/3340 fol.72 p.5  Kirkgate, Shipley
Issabella Smith head wid 44 Housekeeper Durham Sunderland
William         "   son   unm 24 Painter employing 1 man   "
George        "      "       "    22 Painter       Yorks Bradford
Henry          "      "       "    21 Mechanic          "       "
Thomas       "      "       "    13 Worsted Spinner  "   "
Richard        "      "            10  Scholar               "     "
Mary J      "     dau           7     "               Yorks Shipley
John J        "      son         5      "                "         "

Title: Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: WG on Tuesday 27 February 07 23:20 GMT (UK)

Thanks a lot Barbara! You've found quite a lot of new info. Very interesting about Rebecca.

Can you find Florence Ethel in 1901? She didn't marry until 1909 so I assume she'll still be living with her father (Richard). I believe her mother (Mary Hannah) died in 1899 so Richard will be a widower in the 1901. I'm curious to know if there were any other siblings I didn't know about.

Thanks again,
 WG

Title: Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 27 February 07 23:21 GMT (UK)

1851  HO107/23121 fol.58 p.17  Stocks Hill, Shipley
Henry Smith    head mar 34  House Painter  Monkwearmouthshire
Isabella   "      wife    "    33                         Durham Sunderland
William    "      son          14  Painter                "           "
George    "         "           12 Spinner (worsted) Yorks Bradford
Henry      "         "           11      "             "              "    Horton
Thomas   "         "             3  Scholar                     "            "
Richard    "         "        6 mo                                 "             "
Mary        "   mother  wid 83                         Durham  West Boldon

1841 HO107/1296/3 fol.32 p.19  Church Building, Victoria St, Horton, Bradford
Henry Smith 25  Painter   N (not b. in county)
Isabella  "    24                N
William    "     4                N
George    "    3                Y
Henry       "   1                 Y

Now for Florence 1901           Barbara

Title: Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 27 February 07 23:34 GMT (UK)

1901 RG13/4188 fol.105 p.32  St. Laurence, Pudsey
Richard Smith head widr 50  House Painter      worker      Yorks Bradford
Lilly         "      dau   s     24  Stocking Puller (?) own account Yorks Shipley
Florence E "     "      s     19  Woollen Weaver   worker    Yorks Baildon
James A    "    son   s     17  Cabinet Maker            "            "   Farsley

That's it!  Barbara

Title: Re: SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: WG on Tuesday 27 February 07 23:37 GMT (UK)

Thanks so much for all your help Barbara. You did an amazing job.

 WG

Title: Re: COMPLETED -- SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: WG on Wednesday 28 February 07 21:05 GMT (UK)

Quote

Death for Mary Dec 1852, James marries Rebecca Wrigglesworth Jun 1853, that was quick!

Just found this on FreeBMD:

Surname  First name(s)   District   Vol   Page
Marriages Dec 1837

AMBLER Mary Ann          Leeds       23    444
Bathwaite Jane           Leeds       23    444
Benton Mary              Leeds       23    444
Driver James             Leeds       23    444
Flower Ann               Bradford    23    444
Ingham John              Leeds       23    444
PARKER James             Leeds       23    444
SPENCER Robert           Leeds       23    444
WRIGLESWORTH Mary        Leeds       23    444

Could it be that Rebecca was Mary's sister?


 WG

Title: Re: COMPLETED -- SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: WG on Wednesday 28 February 07 21:22 GMT (UK)

Quote from: WG on Wednesday 28 February 07 21:05 GMT (UK)

Could it be that Rebecca was Mary's sister?

Yep, found them in the IGI. Parents were John WRIGGLESWORTH and Ellen CROUTCHLEY.
And on the Yorkshire BMD site, I found that James DRIVER married Mary Wrigglesworth in 1837 at Holy Trinity Church, Rothwell.

Fascinating!

 WG

Title: Re: COMPLETED -- SMITH, Florence Ethel - census lookup
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 28 February 07 22:13 GMT (UK)

Excellent, that sorts them out then, well done!  :)

Barbara