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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Midlothian => Topic started by: two_jays_122 on Tuesday 27 February 07 15:02 GMT (UK)
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I am researching the family and ancestors of the above. James was born abt 1852 and the couple married in Edinburgh on 28 July 1876. James died in Edinburgh on 12 October 1915. By trade he was a Lithographer and Photographer.
One of their children, Thomas, was later to become a Photographer, Doctor of Medicine and Member of Parliament for East Edinburgh before becoming Sir Thomas Drummond Shiels. He was the maternal Grandfather of my wife.
Any information about the family or ancestors of James and Agnes will be most gratefully recieved.
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Hi Two Jays
Welcome to RootsChat :)
It would help people doing any searches for you if you could also include details of James and Agnes's parents' names from their marriage/ death certs. This would help to find them in the early censuses.
Regards.
Monica
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Thanks Monica
I believe that James's parents were Thomas Shiels and Euphemia Jupta but don't take this information as gospel. No dates for either. No information on Agnes's parents I'm afraid.
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Hi JJ,
I have found an extracted record on IGI for a James Tofts Shields who was born 18 Aug 1852 at Edinburgh parish to parents Thomas Shields and Euphemia Tofts.
Tom
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Hi 2J's ,
I have found a James Shiels 28 yo and an Agnes Shiels aged 27yo in 1881 census. Living at 15 High School Yards, Edinburg Lady Yesters. They have 2 daughters Mary aged 4 and Euphemia aged 2. The ages would tie up nicely.
Tom
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I hope you don't mind me intruding on your thread, but I couldn't help it when I read about your Drummond Shiels men.
I have a very tatty copy of an obituary of my Gt Gt Grandfather's obituary which has a photo taken by Drummond Shiels Edinburgh at the top.
I wondered if you know what happened to any of their work or of anywhere that may have any copies of photos as I would love to see what he really looked like. What I have is a photocopy of a photocopy of a newspaper cutting from 1923!
We have tried everywhere we can think of to find photos as he was a State Trumpeter for Scotland and Bandmaster of the Queen's Edinburgh Rifles and conducted numerous concerts in the various parks in Edinburgh.
I know this is probably a question you cannot answer and please excuse my cheek, but it was just worth a try.
I hope you get some good help with your research. Good luck.
best wishes
Daff
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I just found this on the 1861 census which could be yours:
Thomas Shiels age 53
Euphemia Shiels age 50
Isabella Shiels age 27
Euphemia Shiels age 14
Robert Shiels age 11
James Shiels age 9
32 William Street Edinburgh Registration district - St George
Daff
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Hi Daffodily
In your search for Drummond Shiel Photographers, have a look at this link. Apart from Thomas there is also a James Drummond Shiels with studios in Edinburgh:
http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/PP_N/pp_shiels.htm
Regards.
Monica
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Hi two jays
For verification of James and Agnes's parents, you can look at their death certs. on line at Scotlands' People, the official pay to view BMD site at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
This looks a possible for Agnes's death entry:
1910 SHIELS AGNES CAMPBELL 56 @ NEWINGTON EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN Refs: 685/05 0146
And for James, this one looks likely:
1915 SHIELS JAMES DRUMMOND 63 @ MORNINGSIDE EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN Refs: 685/06 1007
Regards.
Monica
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Thanks to you all for your help. Further information will be welcomed.
Daffodilly, I couldn't do better that Monica's suggestion re the Edinburgh Photo Society.
Two_jays_122
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Thanks Two jays, I have tried there, I must have tried everywhere really and it was just a longshot that you might have some information. The name just jumped out at me when I saw your posting. Thanks ever so much for replying, I hope you manage to get more info on your tree, like mine your ancestor was quite well known at the time, and they probably met each other!
Good luck
Daff
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Just dallying about on the internet, interested in a trip to Scotland to visit my mother's homeland. She was born to James and Agnes Shiels in 1921 and named Agnes Drummond Shiels. The family immigrated to Canada and then to San Francisco, USA. My grandfather was a podiatrist in SF. I heard many stories about Sir Thomas and the family. Agnes was born in either Glasgow or Edinburgh...not sure where. The most wonderful mother ever, she passed 20 years ago. I also heard many stories about an Aunt Nell and others. We have a living relative still in the Bay Area of Ca. I'm intent now to visit with them and get more info.
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Hi Melinhen, thanks for getting in touch.
I have a wealth of information on the Shiels family and am quite happy to share it with you. However, there does appear to be a problem concerning Agnes Drummond SHIELS parents.
I have Agnes as having been born 06 Feb 1921 at 73 York Drive, Hillhead, Glasgow.
Her parents were Albert Arthur Drummond SHIELS (born 03 Jul 1890 at 53 Nelson Street, Glasgow and died 1947 in California USA) and Margaret Dawson J CLARK (born 31 Jul 1888 at Wishaw, Lanarkshire and died 05 Dec 1960 at San Mateo, California USA) The couple were married 24 Dec 1915 at Thornhill, Wishaw, Lanarkshire. Albert's occupation was Doctor of Chiropractor and this is bourne out by the inscription on the family grave in Edinburgh.
Albert's parents were James Drummond SHIELS (born 18 Aug 1852 at 2 Haugh Street, Edinburgh and died 12 Oct 1915 at 22 Forbes Road, Edinburgh) and Agnes CAMPBELL (born 15 May 1853 at 40 Cumberland Street, Edinburgh and died 04 Mar 1910 at 13 Cumin Place, Edinburgh). James's occupation was photographer.
I have other information and photographs if you wish to contact me on
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Incidentally you are 2nd cousin to my wife.
Hope to hear from you
John
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