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Title: CROOK Family Help Please
Post by: venali02 on Saturday 24 February 07 22:52 GMT (UK)
Hello I'm trying to find my Great grandfather John Crook and family. John was born between 1868 & 1870 in ALdershot England his parents are believed to be Mary Ann WILLIAMS and William CROOK. (father may of been a Royal Guard)
John had one brother Daniel CROOK. and maybe one sister Caroline CROOK.
The family moved to Australia when John was a small boy. 
John married Ellen Pain or SPAIN (also know as PHILLIPS after the death of her father). in Lambton NSW 1891 they had 8 children all were born in and around Adamstown NSW. but one son was born in Korumburra VIC.  John worked as a Miner and Unionist. He died in New Lambton NSW.
I would be most thankful for any help on this family. ;)
Thank you for your time.
Cheers Venali
Title: Re: CROOK Family Help Please
Post by: cando on Saturday 24 February 07 23:18 GMT (UK)
Hi

Found the following marriage on
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/  -

 4702/1891      CROOK, John      PAIN,Ellen  District LAMBTON 

You may be able to find the other family there as well.

Good hunting

cando    
Title: Re: CROOK Family Help Please
Post by: kenjo on Saturday 24 February 07 23:21 GMT (UK)
Hi I found the above Marriage as well, couldn't find them in NSW shipping.

Have found this in 1871c..

Govt Buildings, High St, Folkstone..

Mary A Crook Head Mar, 21yrs, Wife of a Soldier, born ? Gillivern ,S Wales.

John Crook, son 1yr, born Aldershot

Good luck.
Title: Re: CROOK Family Help Please
Post by: cando on Saturday 24 February 07 23:25 GMT (UK)
Found some births
 
3444/1893    CROOK, Daniel John     F: JOHN    M: ELLEN    ADAMSTOWN      
28724/1897    CROOK, Albert T    F:JOHN    M:ELLEN    ADAMSTOWN      
19385/1901    CROOK, Stanley     F:JOHN    M:ELLEN    ADAMSTOWN      
20899/1906    CROOK, Mary E  F:JOHN    M:ELLEN    ADAMSTOWN      
27847/1899    CROOK, Cecil J     F:JOHN    M:ELLEN    ADAMSTOWN      
Title: Re: CROOK Family Help Please
Post by: cando on Saturday 24 February 07 23:31 GMT (UK)

Daniel's marriage
 4388/1894      CROOK,Daniel      ROBINSON,Elizabeth      LAMBTON


And some births -  to Daniel and Elizabeth ?John's bro

 3340/1894      CROOK,William            DANIEL      ELIZABETH      ADAMSTOWN       
19104/1896    CROOK,Richard   DANIEL    ELIZABETH    ADAMSTOWN      
18628/1903    CROOK,Elizabeth A    DANIEL    ELIZABETH    ADAMSTOWN      
18598/1898    CROOK,Edward   DANIEL    ELIZABETH    ADAMSTOWN      
28882/1900    CROOK,Mary A    DANIEL    ELIZABETH    ADAMSTOWN

cando     
Title: Re: CROOK Family Help Please
Post by: cando on Sunday 25 February 07 06:15 GMT (UK)
Caroline's marriage

 6584/1889 HUNTER,William E      CROOK,Caroline     Lambton

Getting there ;D

And their chn to 1906

 31793/1889      HUNTERJames W    WILLIAM E      CAROLINE      LAMBTON        
18330/1891    HUNTER, Mary A    WILLIAM E  CAROLINE    LAMBTON      
14368/1906    HUNTER,Rita W    WILLIAM E    CAROLINE    NEW LAMBTON      
23035/1900    HUNTER,Ida   WILLIAM E    CAROLINE    NEW LAMBTON

cando     
Title: Re: CROOK Family Help Please
Post by: venali02 on Sunday 25 February 07 13:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Cando thank you so very much for taking the time to search for me you are a real gem. I will have to get the certificate's and see what happens.
Thank you once again
Cheers
Venali
Title: Re: CROOK Family Help Please
Post by: venali02 on Sunday 25 February 07 13:44 GMT (UK)
HI Kenjo thank you for this information. would you have any idea where to look for Johns Birth cert or his parents marriage cert. or his fathers Army record's?
Thank you once again
Cheers
Venali
Title: Re: CROOK Family Help Please
Post by: kenjo on Sunday 25 February 07 17:15 GMT (UK)
Depending on how sure you are about Mary Ann's surname this is what I found.

Marriage..
William Crook to Mary Ann Williams JunQ 1869 Clifton, 6a 255

Birth..
John Crook, JunQ 1870 Droxford 2c 127

This is how you order certificates...
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Title: Re: CROOK Family Help Please
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 27 February 07 06:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Venali,
Many of the sons of John Crook and Daniel Crook joined the Armed Forces in WW1
I think also grandsons of those 2 also did for ww2
Many of the war records are digitised so you can read them online.
The great value of these records is in that you can see actual addresses of the Next of Kin [in many cases that is John C. or Daniel C.] and lovely hand-written letters from loved ones.  Much more too.

Cecil James has a very interesting file indeed....Bit of Hot Water and a very early marriage! Sadly, he was killed in France.
Interestingly, his English wife [Annie Bessie] of only a few  months emigrated to Aust to live in the same town as her parents-in law. she re-married later.

Albert Thomas is a miner like his father .His parents, John and Ellen sometimes show different addresses.

Daniel [John?] enlisted in 1915 and seemed to be married then to Florence.

Richard ,son of Daniel and Elizabeth enlisted in both wars and in his second record is married to Coral.

William is interesting as he lists as NOK first his sister Ada Henderson then secondly his sister Lizzie Cooper
Bit of HOT WATER there in that file too!

http://www.naa.gov.au

Good reading.
Sue
 
Title: Re: CROOK Family Help Please
Post by: venali02 on Wednesday 28 February 07 13:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue
 Thank you so much for this information. I feel like I have won lotto since reading your message and joining this site.
Kind regauds
venali
 :D :) ;)