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Title: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: johnpeel on Friday 23 February 07 22:16 GMT (UK)
Searching for pictures or photo of SS Dalhanna cargo ship built 1930 Wm. Beardmore & Company, Dalmuir. In 1941 was under the British & Burmese  S.N. (Paddy Henderson) and in 1946  the Ulster S.S. (G.Heyn)

An ex Naval colleauge of mine served on it as a DEMS Gunner and was responsible at age of 18 years in downing two Heinkels in Algiers harbour, 1943.

I would like to present him with a photo of him annotated on the ship's photo as a  memento.

Any help in obtaining the above information would be greatly appreciated.

Regards, johnpeel

Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: goggy on Saturday 24 February 07 06:00 GMT (UK)
john,have you 'Googled' for all combination,s of the ship,s name+war zone,+d.e.m.s action,s etc?
Not much available there,there are also m.n site,s to take a look at,and one very good bloke at this sort of thing is Billy McGee,whose reference as usual,I
can't find right now!
Have go and see what come,s up.
           Best of Luck,
                Goggy. ;) ;D
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: goggy on Saturday 24 February 07 06:08 GMT (UK)
john forgot ww2 people,s war,dial up d.e.m.s. gunner,s +algiers.that should give you a leg up!!
                     Goggy. ;) ;D
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: liverpool annie on Saturday 24 February 07 14:36 GMT (UK)


Hi johnpeel !

Don't know if I can find an actual photo of the ship ..... it got "bounced "around a bit .... I did find a later date photo though .... don't know if that's any good !!  ::)

Dalhanna
1930
1941 purchased from Dalhanna Co., Glasgow, 1945 sold to Head Line, Belfast, renamed Lord O'Neill.

Lord O'Neill
1930
ex- Dalhanna, 1945 purchased from P. Henderson & Co., Glasgow, and renamed Lord O'Neill, 1950 sold to Germany, renamed Johann Schulte.
5,688

5,571

http://www.clydeshipping.co.uk/viewalbum.asp?folder=Harry+Renfrews+Collection

Annie  :)
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: johnpeel on Saturday 24 February 07 16:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Annie,

Many thanks for the reply and the pictures  were very interesting  but the Dalhanna shown was a later one as was the the usual practise as they carried on the names. This ship appears to be elusive but somewhere there might be one lurking in someones collection.

Anyway thanks for the info and will bear this one in mind.

Regards John
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: liverpool annie on Saturday 24 February 07 16:11 GMT (UK)


Just as an afterthought .... I think theres a postcard on this site of the Dalhanna .... but I couldn't get it !! ..... you might want to take a look !!

http://www.photoship.co.uk/Old%20Ships/index.html

Annie  :)
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: johnpeel on Saturday 24 February 07 16:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Goggy,

Many thanks for the reply and just like to say that I have searched all the obvious avenues but this one appears to be a sticker but hope to get there eventually.
Regards John
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: johnpeel on Saturday 24 February 07 16:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Annie,

 Just so that there is no confusion, the picture on your message 16:11:12 is one that i had downloaded earlier but unfortunately it is a tanker and was obviously a later ship.

However, many thanks once again.
Regards John
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: goggy on Sunday 25 February 07 03:16 GMT (UK)
john,the earier addy i passed on, BBC ww2 peoples war,will give you a dems gunners link,and a lead to Billy McGee.there are a lot of people looking for info;on this subject,no mention of Dalhanna though.
Keep it up john!
                  Goggy. ;) ;D
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: goggy on Sunday 25 February 07 03:20 GMT (UK)
AND!Before I forget,was this the 'Operation Torch' period? Invasion of Nth Africa,if so,American record,s may give you something?
          Goggy. ;) ;D
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: johnpeel on Sunday 25 February 07 09:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Goggy,

Thanks again for the reply and I am sure that I have been through the links as you suggested but will persevere and see if any others come up. I read one where a dems gunner shot down two in the North sea and returned with a part of one still on the deck where it had crashed.

Good shooting!!!!!!!

Regards JOhn
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: IMBER on Monday 26 February 07 10:19 GMT (UK)
Beardmore's archives are held at Glasgow University.  There may be photographs.  Worth also checking with the Transport Museum.
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: liverpool annie on Monday 26 February 07 14:37 GMT (UK)


Hi John !

If the worst comes to the worst .... maybe you could use a photo of the harbour in 1943 !!

http://digitallibrary.smu.edu/cul/gir/ww2/mcsc/nafrica/pages/mcs014na.htm

Annie  :)
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: seamike on Tuesday 27 February 07 12:20 GMT (UK)
Hi John,

They have photo of Dalhanna made somewhere in South Africa is here: http://rapidttp.com/museum/jmmc/jmmcd.html. But to see the picture you have to purchase it  :)

There is also painitng of "Johan Shulte" ex-Dalhanna at http://www.galerie-navalis.de/bilder/g51.jpg , but the picture is very small.

Mike
Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: johnpeel on Tuesday 27 February 07 15:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Mike,

Many thanks for the information, it is the best  that I have had, yet but pity about the size.  It goes to show that there is a lot of info out there to be found.

The S.A. pic price seems to be a bit on the high side but must be of excellent quality and pity one cannot see a preview of it.
 
Really appreciate yours and others efforts.

Regards John



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Title: Re: SS Dalhanna (Cargo. Dempster Line 1943 ?) DEMS Gunners
Post by: Suzanne4440 on Sunday 21 February 16 02:18 GMT (UK)
Is this the ship you are looking for? I know this is a very old post but I was Googling "Head Line" and found your post. Hope this is it. The LORD O'NEILL.