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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: Alison Smith (nee Hargreaves) on Thursday 22 February 07 19:35 GMT (UK)
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Good evening everyone!
Wondering if there's anyone out there with knowledge of the HAYHURST and HIRST families in the above areas, as I'm trying to knock some brick walls down, and push my ancestry back a generation or two!
My 2 x Gt Grandmother Ann HAYHURST married Samuel WALTON on 4 Sep 1858 at the Trinity Church, Habergham Eaves. According to the M Cert, Ann was a spinster, aged 20, a weaver of Trinity Street, Habergham Eaves - her father was Thomas HAYHURST, a Block Printer.
I've been trying to find Ann and her family prior to 1858 by using census, and have come up against a bit of a problem!
I find Thomas and his wife Frances on the 1861 census, living at Trinity Street, Habergham Eaves - and I am almost positive that this is Ann's
family:
1861 Census: 21 Trinity Street, Habergham Eaves:
Thomas HAYHURST Head M 59 Lab for Machines? b Ceside?, Preston
Frances HAYHURST Wife M 50 b Rossendale, Lancs
John HAYHURST Son U 24 Cotton Weaver b Hapton, Lancs
Joseph HAYHURST Son U 19 Boot & Shoe Maker b Hapton, Lancs
Margaret HAYHURST Dau U 16 Cotton Weaver b Hapton, Lancs
Francis HAYHURST Son 12 Scholar b Habergham Eaves, Lancs
Samuel HAYHURST Son 8 Scholar b Habergham Eaves, Lancs
Sarah E HAYHURST Dau 6 Scholar b Habergham Eaves, Lancs
However, pushing back to the 1851 census, where I would expect to find a 13 year old Ann, I've come up with the following:
1851 Census: Back 31 Trinity Street, Habergham Eaves, Lancs
Thomas HIRST Head Marr 47 Calico Block Printer b:Preston?, Lancs
Fanny HIRST Wife Marr 41 b:Rossendale, Lancs
Elizabeth HIRST Dau 21 ?? and ?? Weaver b:Habergham Eaves, Lancs
James HIRST Son 19 Mechanic b: Habergham Eaves, Lancs
William HIRST Son 16 Mechanic b:Habergham Eaves, Lancs
John HIRST Son 14 Paint Work (Lead)? b: Habergham Eaves, Lancs
Ann HIRST Dau 13 Nurse b: Habergham Eaves, Lancs
Joseph HIRST Son 9 Scholar b: Habergham Eaves, Lancs
Margaret HIRST Dau 6 Scholar b:Habergham Eaves, Lancs
Francis HURST Son 3 Scholar b: Habergham Eaves, Lancs
And pushing on back to 1841, find the following:
1841 Census: Knotts, Hapton, Whalley, Lancs
Thomas HIRST 35 Calico Printer b: Lancs
Fanny HIRST 30 b: Lancs
Elizabeth HIRST 13 b: Lancs
James HIRST 11 b: Lancs
William HIRST 7 b: Lancs
John HIRST 5 b: Lancs
Ann HIRST 2 b: Lancs
Looking at the names, ages, places of birth, occupations and addresses - I am pretty certain that this is the same family in the three censuses, but can anyone explain the change in surname from HIRST to HAYHURST?? Would it be quite feasible for the family to change their name slightly between 1861 and 1871? Has anyone else experienced name changing like this, or offer any reason to why this may have happened? Incidentally, I can find no record of any of these people on the 1881 or 1891 census, using the different spellings of Hirst or Hayhurst! They all seem to have just completely disappeared, and I cannot easily pin down any deaths or marriages using Free BMD!
Any theories greatly appreciated!
Thanks and Regards
Alison Hargreaves, Swindon, UK
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Hi Alison,
1881 census:
RG11/4153 Folio 59 page 53
59 Accrington Road, Habergham Eaves, Burnley
Fanny Hayhurst, head, Wid, 70, Newchurch, Lancashire
Francis, Son, Unm, 32, Mechanic Mill, Burnley
Mary or Marg. Miles, Daur, Mar, 34, Cotton Weaver, Hapton
John Thos Miles, Grandson, U, 11, Scholar, Burnley
Frank Miles, Grandson, U, 7, Scholar, Burnley
Fred Miles, Grandson, U, 6, Scholar, Burnley
John Sheilds, Boarder, U, 19, Labourer at paper Mill, Burnley
*ANNE WELDEN, Boarder, U, 23, Winder Cotton Mill Elberton,
Yorks
* A Samuel Hayhurst, Widower, aged 29 married an Annie Weldon aged 24,at Holy Trinity, Habergham Eaves on 12th March, 1882. Husbands father was Thomas Hayhurst and Wifes father William Weldon.
As Fanny`s place of birth is now Newchurch I would think that this is Newchurch in Rossendale. I would also suspect that as Thomas and family were living at Knotts in the 1841 he would have been employed at the Lowerhouse Print Works.
Regards,
Mo
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Hi Mo
Thanks for your message re my Hayhurst family. This definitely looks like them! ;D
Big clue there is finding Anne or Annie Welden living in Fanny's household in 1881.
I have been unable to find husband and wife Samuel and Annie Hayhurst on 1891 census, but suspect I have found the death of Samuel Hayhurst in Q1 1886 in Blackburn, aged 33. I did a search in FreeBMD to see if it's possible that Annie Hayhurst remarried - and found one possibility - Q4 1886 in Blackburn to either Francis Cross or James Rimmer.
The 1891 census finds a Francis and Annie Cross living in Blackburn - with a 7 year old son called Samuel Cross... ::) Samuel would have been born about 1884 - and I expect it's possible that he took on his new stepfather's surname?!
Incidentally, Annie's place of birth in 1891 and 1901 are York and Elvington respectively - this seems to be the "Elberton" stated in the 1881 census! (Elvington is where TV presenter Richard Hammond had his near fatal crash last year....)!
Anyway - I will keep plugging away with this family, and I'm slowly getting there - so thanks a million again for pointing me in the right direction.
You're a star - as always!! ;)
Cheers... Alison x
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Hi Alison,
Do you have these baptisms from Holy Trinity?
Sarah Ellen HEYHURST Born 29th September, 1854, Baptised 11th November, 1854.
Parents Thomas Heyhurst and Frances TAYLOR
Francis HURST baptised 20th May, 1849
Parents Thomas Hurst and Frances TAYLOR
Regards,
Mo
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Thanks again Mo....
These do look my family, and I've been given some more baptisms from the BVRI discs for other children who appear to be the children of Thomas and Fanny/Frances - and they are looking very suspiciously like the children listed on the censuses!! ;)
More to get my teeth into which is fantastic!
Thanks again.... Alison x