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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: Leofric on Wednesday 21 February 07 16:38 GMT (UK)
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One of my relations was born in Thomas Street in Midleton in 1875.
What I'd like to know is - does Thomas St still exist? And if so, what is the name and address of the nearest RC church...(Not a new one, obviously!)
Fingers crossed,
Leofric
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I dont live in Midleton but if you go on Google Maps, Thomas Street can be clearly seen off of Main Street. I am sure you will find the local Catholic Church in fact just South of Thomas Street is Church Lane. Good Luck!
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Hello Stokepoges!
And thanks for your reply. Just goes to show that if you're patient a reply will come eventually!
When I first tried Google Maps I'm fairly sure that only Dublin and Cork City was available to view. Good to see that there's more coverage now.
All I need now is the name - perhaps someone reading this will come to the rescue...
Thanks again for your reply.
Leofric
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Thomas Street certainly does still exist and the Catholic Church is: Our Lady of the Most Holy Rosary in St. Mary's Road. However, in 1875 the Rosary had not been built, there was a chapel right on the edge of town called St. John - the records for St. John's `are in the sacristy.
They should be available from Mallow Heritage Centre but I have no idea how accurate they are. If you want more specific information I'll be happy to try and help you.
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Thanks for your reply, Midletonman.
When you say the records for St. John's `are in the sacristy, do you mean in the new church?
Since my original posting I've found out that although the first son was christened as a RC, the following son was christened as CofI ! I know that their mother was protestant, and I'm now assuming the father was RC and the children were a mix - perhaps to satisfy both parents! This being so, would you know of any CofI churches near Thomas St in 1875?
Leofric
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Yes, the books are kept in The Holy Rosary.
The next turning along from Thomas Street (my grandmother lived there) is Church Lane - St. John the Baptist, built by the Brodericks (Lord Midleton). I have never seen anyone in there and the only contact I can suggest is: http://www.cork.anglican.org/help/researchingfamilyhistory.html. If you use Google Earth you can see it quite clearly.
I can have a look at the headstones if you think that may be of interest and, although it's a bit early, I can try the Parish Census for you of 1842.
Hope the attached pics are of interest.
What names are you looking for?
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Thanks again Midletonman,
I wanted the info because I aim one day to come and have a look myself - and be well prepared!
The Myles family lived in Midleton certainly between 1874 and Dec 1875 for that is when and where two of the sons were born. But I think that they moved to Cork City at some point after. I'm not aware of anyone dying there. I have the army papers of the first son John Myles who gave as his next of kin his mother Maria, whose address was Buckingham Place, Cork City, in 1898. Her husband's name was also John.
So I don't think there'll be any gravestones of the Myles' there but thank you for your kind offer and for the picture of the church too.
regards
Leofric
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Hi
A John Myles was born in the Midleton Area and had two brothers (William and George) and moved to Cork City. John was born around 1871 and like his brother William en-listed into the army both into the 2nd. Batt. Royal Dublin Fuss. They faught in the Boar wars a John was Discharged in the ealry 1900s following his enlisted period. He Got married around 1895 two years before he enlisted and had two children. John re-joined the army in 1914 and was killed in action in 1916.
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Dan,
You seem to know a lot about my rellies! I know that my two great uncles were born in Middleton ( John & William) and that both served in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers. From memory, John served about eight years, serving in the Boer War, and later in Egypt, and Malta I think before discharge in 1906. His brother William served only for about 18 months before being medically dishcharged, about six months of which was in SA. Their brother George was in the Royal Horse Artillery, but that's all I know of him, I don't know when or where he was born.
But I had no idea that John also served in WW1 and was killed in action. I have a photo of him somewhere dressed in his best uniform. I didn't know he was married either, although I think I've found his brother William on the 1911 census living in Dublin.
Are you a relation of this family? And did you know that the boys had a sister called Annette?
Leofric
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Hello again
My great grandfather was John Charles Myles.
My Father only ever talked about his two brothers and never mentioned a sister. I would like to see the photo if you could upload it that would be great as we never had a photo. On the CWGC website it list's John parents as Mary and George. Have you come across a Alec Cecil Robert Myles?
What relationship are you to John? Dad or Gran never mentioned what happened to either William or George after WW1. If you go to Cork and look for Buckingham Place Google list's two 1) off St Georges Quay (no Longer there but there was a Pub called the Buckingham. 2) The other is off Oliver Plunketts Street.
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Dan,
It seems we may just have a remarkable coincidence...but I'd like to explore it further, for to find two sets of brothers with the same names in a small town (?) like Midleton at the same period and with a similar military history is odd.
I have John Myles' army papers which showed him to be 24 years of age when he joined up in 1898, so born about 1874. As I said before his next of kin was shown to be his mother, Maria Myles. There was also a note on his papers that he had two brothers also serving, William in the 1st Battalion, and George in the RHA. John was also in the 1st Battalion. I could not find a birth cert for John, but I did find one for William born on 10th Dec 1875 in Thomas St, Midleton, his parents being John and Maria (nee Burchill) Myles. Their sister Annette was my Great Grandmother, and she stated on both the 1901 and 1911 censuses that she was born in Wicklow in about 1870 but the date varies over several different records.
My mum told me that Maria's marriage to John was her second marriage, and I don't know anything about her first marriage, or even if the name Burchill was her maiden name or that of her first husband.
I also have William's marriage cert to Margaret Wallace (1903) in St Peter's church Dublin, his father again shown as John. You'll find him on the 1911 living in Molesworth St, Dublin. I also have his army papers which are nowhere near as detailed as are John's, but show Midleton as his place of birth. He served in the Boer War too, but only for a short period. His name is not on the medal roll for the Queen's SA medal although John's is and with various bars attached for the actions he took part in.
Of George I could find no birth cert, so don't know his year of birth, but there is a George Myles living in Cork City in the 1911 census, married with two children, and that could well be him.
I have never heard of Alec.
Here's the picture then (hopefully!) in his red coat.
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Dan,
The wretched picture was too big to upload. I'll have to try and reduce it somehow and send again.......
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Dan,
Uploading - take 2
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Midleton man this is a wild cry for help I am looking for the Madden Family of Midleton.Cork
Thomas Madden was a shoemaker by trade. His Daughter Margaret married Michael Sullivan (my gt gft) in Pontypool South Wales in 1870 . Here it becomes complicated they brought up my grand father b 1866 whose B cert shows his father is Michael but whose mother is as Frances Madden.
Was she Margarets sister?
My problem is finding if there were two Madden sisters Frances and Margaret who emigrated to Wales together.
Hope you can help