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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: doorwoman on Saturday 17 February 07 20:32 GMT (UK)
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Hi all.
I'm missing information on Charles/Charlie Dadswell b1878 after the 1891 census. I also have the same problem with his sister Edith Martha Dadswell b1862.
Both were born in Laughton & registered in Hailsham.
The last known whereabouts for Charles was Laughton 1891, the last known place for Edith Martha was Streatham, London/Surrey as a servant 1891.
I've checked the BMD for marriages & deaths between census' for both but nothing has come up.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Could he be the 27 year old Railway Porter who says he's born Uckfield, boarding with the Trubridge family in Portswood, Hampshire? RG13; Piece: 1068; Folio: 62; Page: 24
I notice Uckfield isn't very far from Laughton which might be a small village and so he claimed Uckfield as being the nearest large town? and probably within the Hailsham registration district.
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I'll check up on that lead & see if it fits.
Thanks Phrishy!
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We have a family mystery regarding the DADSWELLs. This is from my notes for John BEENEY who married my ancestress Sarah CROUCH b1867:
Resided 1 Poplar Cottage in Hollington, Battle Dist, Rye, Sussex; John is listed as a Labourer on a Railway. His son Percy is 15 and is a grocery assistant.
In 1901 there is a Daniel Dadswell or Dodswell living with this family. He is age 50, b abt 1851.
This Daniel was a lodger. When John and Sarah came to Canada they brought with them a boy named William H. D. BEENEY. When William married, he gave his name as William Henry Dadswell Beeney. We know of no relationship to this person, but there is one possibility. John Beeney was married prior to Sarah, Perhaps his wife was a Dadswell, and Daniel was her relative. William may have been Daniel's son, but this remains conjecture. I've never been able to find a marriage for John previous to Sarah.
If any of this rings a bell for anyone, it would be a sound I'd love to hear.
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Hi Doorwoman, was William possibly a Dadswell b c 1899, Hastings, if so the 1901 census RG13/898/70/8 shows a William Dadswell aged 2 Great Grandson to James and Harriett Wood, also in household is a Henry Sellings aged 2 shown as Grandson.
Keyboard86
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Hi Doorwoman, was William possibly a Dadswell b c 1899, Hastings, if so the 1901 census RG13/898/70/8 shows a William Dadswell aged 2 Great Grandson to James and Harriett Wood, also in household is a Henry Sellings aged 2 shown as Grandson.
Keyboard86
Birth William Henry Dadswell June 1899 Hastings 2b 10
Purchase of this certificate, would confirm parentage.
Keyboard86
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William Henry Dadswell BEENEY b1899 died 20 Dec 1940 Cedar Springs, Raleigh Twp, ON Canada
He was married and had 6 children. His only son, Norman, died in Italy in 1944. I have a photo of him in uniform.
Left Liverpool, England, 5 Apr 1914 on the Cymric, with Sarah and John Beeney and Sarah's daughter Beatrice, and landed Portland, Maine.
Keyboard86, your information is fantastic. Thank you.
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Hi again, as I could not locate a positive death for their son Percy, is it possible he left home in 1905 for Canada?
Percy BENIE aged 18 Single occ Farmer departed Liverpool to Quebec on SS Lake Manitoba bound for Montreal
Keyboard86
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Keyboard86, I'm really not one for the kitchy lingo of today, but Blimey YOU ROCK. : )
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Hi Doorwoman, was William possibly a Dadswell b c 1899, Hastings, if so the 1901 census RG13/898/70/8 shows a William Dadswell aged 2 Great Grandson to James and Harriett Wood, also in household is a Henry Sellings aged 2 shown as Grandson.
Keyboard86
Hi,
Henry Sellings -Grandson
there is another connection with the Sellings family
1881 Daniel Dadswell (with wife and son- he seems to be the same Daniel who is a lodger in 1901) has a visitor -Rosanna Sellings age 17 b Rotherfield
Suz
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Hi Doorwoman, was William possibly a Dadswell b c 1899, Hastings, if so the 1901 census RG13/898/70/8 shows a William Dadswell aged 2 Great Grandson to James and Harriett Wood, also in household is a Henry Sellings aged 2 shown as Grandson.
Keyboard86
think I have found a Snelling connection to James and Harriet Wood
1871
PineHurst Cottage Ritherfield Sussex
James Sellings Head M 65 ag lab Mayfield Sussex
HARRIETT wife 40 Rotherfield
Harriet Heasman daughter I 20 Domestic servant out of place
Abel Heasman son 15 ag lab
Risehannah Sellings daughter 7
Ann Sellings daughter 9
John Sellings son 5
Alice Sellings daughter 2
children all b Rotherfield
RG10 1051 32 5
James died
Then
Marriage reg
Dec qtr 1889
Uckfield
2b 263
on same page
Harriet Heasman
James Wood
(Mark Heasman also on same page -think he married Sarah A Baldock)
So Grandson Henry Sellings would be from Harriet's side of the family -not the Wood side
So now to discover which "side" William Henry belongs to???
Suz
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I seem to have taken over this query. My apologies, and I hope nobody is forgetting Charlie Dadswell as they hunt around for my Daniel and William Henry!
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Hi
Re: William Henry - I honestly think the only way to solve this is to buy a copy of that 1899 birth cert to establish his parentage
Until you do that - you won't be able to "slot" him into the various mix of families
Do Canadian marriage or death certs show any parent details?
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Back to Charles
Have you already eliminated the free 1911 index entry for Charles Dadswell b 1879 living in Holborn London. Birthplace matches to Sussex
If it's not him - did Charles possibly emigrate to Canada? Have you checked the Canadian 1901 census for him?
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CaroleW, yes, most Canadian BMDs list parents. Of course, everyone I look for is covered by those left over after most is used up. On William Henry Dadswell Beeney's marriage record, he lists his adoptive parents, John Beeney and Sarah (Crouch) Beeney.
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Thanks to some very giving and thoughtful folks here, my family mystery concerning the Dadswells has been (mostly) solved.
When my gggmother came to Canada with her husband, they brought with them a boy age 14 named William Henry. He used the Beeney surname in Canada but we always knew he was not related.
I had found his marriage doc and learned he had given his second middle name as Dadswell and listed his parents as Sarah and John Beeney.
I later found that in 1901 a Daniel Dadswell was residing with the Beeneys as a boarder. John Beeney worked for the railroad. When another poster here mentioned a Dadswell with a connection to the railroad, it grabbed my attention and I began posting.
What I've been given from the censuses and a Dadswell one-surname database shows that Daniel's daughter Ellen gave birth to a child out of wedlock - William Henry. On the 1911 census, he is in the Beeney household and listed as adopted.
While we still don't know why the Beeneys adopted him, we at least now know some of his background and history, how he came to their attention, and can appreciate the similarities between Ellen's circumstance and Sarah's - both gave birth to children out of wedlock in the Union Workhouse.
Many thanks to everyone who helped solve this mystery!
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Hi again, yes we have forgotten Charles Dadswell, I believe it is highly probable that this is his marriage:-
Charles Dadswell to Mary WOOD December 1908 Hunslet 9b 467
Wonder if Mary is a relation to the previous Woods mentioned?
Keyboard86
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I can't help with the search for Charles Dadswell I'm afraid, but just to note that the Abel Heasman mentioned in the 1871 census (in Suzard's post below) at Pinehurst Cottage is my great great grandfather. Harriet was his sister, but I don't have any information on the rest of the household.
Ben
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Hi Ben, welcome to Rootschat, I assume you are aware that Harriet Sellings was previously married to Abel Heasman as Harriett Relph in March 1850 Uckfield v7 page 636, on 1841 their is a Harriett RELF b c 1832 with parents James and Harriett and siblings Ann b c 1836 and Obed (Obadiah) b June qtr 1840 Uckfield.
All the best in your researching,
Keyboard86