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Title: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: Tease on Saturday 17 February 07 11:48 GMT (UK)
Hello all,

I ordered the birth certificate of my Great Grandfather, to try to find out my Great Great Grandmothers surname. She is shown as Sarah Hollendon. Now, I have looked at the usual places, and cannot find ANY hollendons in Oxfordshire at all. She is listed on one of the census's (Once she had already married) as being born in Russells Water, Oxfordshire.

Anyone know where I can look to try to find out some more online? The LDS website doesn't list ANY Hollendons!

Do you have a Hollendon in your past?

Thankyou for any help,

Best Wishes

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Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: Tati on Saturday 17 February 07 11:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Tease,

Can you tell us a little more about her? Where and when was she born?  :)
(could you give us a census reference?)
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: Tease on Saturday 17 February 07 12:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Tati,

Well, depending on which Census you listen to, she was born between 1803 & 1809. She is shown as Russells Water, Oxfordshire on the 1861 census.

Sorry, don't know how to give you a Census Reference? Where would I find that?

Thankyou
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: Tease on Saturday 17 February 07 12:23 GMT (UK)
Think i've found the reference, do you mean something like;

H.O.   107/28/4

???
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: DebbieG on Saturday 17 February 07 12:25 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have just had a look at the Oxfordshire marriage index - and you are quite correct there are no Hollendons - the closest I can come up with in that sort of area (Russells Water is part of either Watlington or Pishill parish) is Holliman - with all sorts of variations on the spelling

 :-\

Debbie
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: DebbieG on Saturday 17 February 07 12:28 GMT (UK)
Tati  ref in 1861 is  RG9- 752 Folio50 Page 6

Debbie
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: Tati on Saturday 17 February 07 12:34 GMT (UK)
Yep that's it - no problem, Tease  :) I think I have found her as Sarah Austin.
I notice the 1851 census has her as being born in Ruscombe Berkshire.
(but she was born 'out' of county in 1841)

I was hoping for her marriage to have occurred after the start of civil registration but unfortunately their eldest child is 8 in 1841  :-\

Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: Tease on Saturday 17 February 07 12:39 GMT (UK)
Thankyou so much for looking!

Yes, in 1851, she is shown as Ruscombe, but they all are, so I hoped that was a mistake.

I guess a trip to the records office is my only hope of working it out.

It is pretty ropey writing on the certificate though. Am I right to think it is Hollendon? I'll scan it in, hang on.......
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: Tease on Saturday 17 February 07 12:44 GMT (UK)
Here is the certificate....
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: Tati on Saturday 17 February 07 12:46 GMT (UK)
It could be Hollender ... Not too sure  :P

Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: jillruss on Saturday 17 February 07 12:49 GMT (UK)
I'm in agreement with Debbie - Hollenden seems to be one of those names that clerks make up when they're not sure what they've heard!!    ::)

I've checked Pishill baptisms and the nearest name I can find is Hollis, which I don't think could be mistaken for Hollenden?  ???

On the IGI, there is a Sarah Holland baptised 19.4.1807 in Ewelme, daughter of John and Elizabeth. Ewelme is only about 4 miles from Russells Water.

Jill

Just seen you've posted the certificate so will have a look at the name now.
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: DebbieG on Saturday 17 February 07 12:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Jill - glad you appeared  :)  I thought you had the registers for Pishill - I have checked Watlington and there's nother obvious

Tease I agree with Tati the name looks like Hollendor

Debbie
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: Tease on Saturday 17 February 07 12:55 GMT (UK)
Hollendor?? Sounds like something from Lord of the Rings!

Goodness, getting this certificate was supposed to help, not pose loads of other questions!

Thankyou all so much for looking for me, you are all so kind!

xxx
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: DebbieG on Saturday 17 February 07 13:19 GMT (UK)
Ok - this is just a theory, but I just had a look at the familys living in Russells Water in 1851 and there is a fairly large family of HOLLANDS headed by a Robert aged 42 born Swincombe (I have just found that part of Russels Water is in Swincombe) with his father William still alive and in the household aged 77 also born Swyncombe.  I checked the registers for Swyncome and there is a baptism for a Sarah d/o William & Ann Holland May 20th 1804.  Do you think the registra has added an extra er to the end of the name on the birth by mistake or mishearing ?

Just an idea

Debbie
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: Tease on Saturday 17 February 07 13:27 GMT (UK)
I am willing to accept any theory on this right now, thankyou!

How can I find out for sure? I guess I need to check the marriage records for Ruscombe to see if they married there. Sarah and her husband John Austin had all their children there, and stayed there for the rest of their lives, so I guess it is a possibility that they married there first.

My Grandmothers parents were first cousins, so the John whose BC is above (my Great Grandfather), also had a sister, Ann that ended up being my Great Grandmother. I suppose if I can find the GRO ref for her birth in about 1841 then I could see what Sarahs maiden name was writtern like then?

Grasping at straws I know!

Is there anywhere online where I can check the Ruscombe Parish Records, or do I need to hop over to the RO?

Thankyou again,

xx
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: DebbieG on Saturday 17 February 07 13:44 GMT (UK)
I can't find anywhere on-line where you can check those registers - they are not on the IGI or the BVRI.  I checked the Berks fam Hist soc site and they don't seem to have published them.  Sometimes the larger local libraries carry copies of registers for their immeadiate area, other than that then yes your best bet would be the records office - I think they have a copy of the Berks marriage index there so if it isn't in Rushcombe you could possibly have a look at that.  I note that John seems to have bee born in Wraysbury which is actually in Bucks though

Debbie
Title: Re: Sarah Hollendon
Post by: newburychap on Sunday 18 February 07 23:25 GMT (UK)
There is an infant Henry Hollender buried in Wokingham in 1844 - from the workhouse. In over 1.5 million names from Berks this is the only Hollender, Hollenden etc.  Could be Sarah's child from her first marriage.