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Could any kind person out there tell me wether the following Addresses Exist today.
I have a death certificate with the place of Death as 179, Ranelagh Road Ipswich, Feb 1914.
The Address of the Informant of the Death was The Waste, Stoke Park, Ipswich,
Do they still Exist.
Regards
Pughy
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179 ranelagh Road Ipswich
still exists
the post code is IP2 0AH
you can pinpoint it on
http://www.multimap.com/
The Waste, Stoke Park, Ipswich probably does not exist, Stoke Park is now a large housing estate which was started in the 1970's (i Think)
i remember playing in the area (which we called THe Lairs back in the 60's ) it is near Ipswich Dock, and in the early 1900s it was probably a large estate and the home of Lord Gwydyr a county magistrate.
try using the postcode IP2 9EG to pinpoint it
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HI Margi
Thank's for the information on the addresses. It makes sense about "The Waste" Stoke Park being a large eastate the individuals living at the addresses were my Gr, Grandfather & his son who were both Gamekeepers, working on the estate? possibly.
You obviously know Ipswich well, are they still the original houses on Ranelagh Road? from 1910.
Did the estate have a name, just wondering if there are any Archives, which some of these estates do have.
Regards
Pughy
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according to
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/
it is just listed as Stoke Park Ipswich
you could try contacting Suffolk Records Office, who may have some information on Lord Gwydyr and his estate,
http://www.suffolk.gov.uk/LeisureAndCulture/LocalHistoryandHeritage/SuffolkRecordOffice/
in fact going from Ipswich Station to Belstead Road which lead to Stoke park you can walk through Gwydyr Lane, (now I nw who it is named after!)
the houses in Ranelagh Road would still be the original houses, I have a copy of the 1902 Old ordnance Survey map for Ipswich and Ranelagh Road is there., the houses were all on the side backing on to the Railway line, the opposite side of the road was a flood plain for the river, but later became an industrial area, it is now being developed as a housing estate.
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HI Margi
Thank's again for the information, The Historical Directories site is great, I have sent a e-mail to the Suffolk Record office with regard to Lord Gwydr.
Would you by any chance know how I might get a Photograph of 179, Ranelagh Road do you know of anyone who might take one for me.
Thank's Again for all your Help
Regards Pughy
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Hi there, guess what? we just moved house a year ago from 195 Ranelagh road! i knew the occupier of 179, and its still there. i go past all the time so i will glady take a picture for u if u havnt already got one? i live in ipswich if theres anything else you would like to know, maybe i can help.
what did you find out about old stoke park? im investigating this myself at the moment, id be interested to hear what you have discovered.
regards, tracie
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I have a booklet on the Stoke Park area of Ipswich - but can't find it at the moment ::)
I know there is a bit about Lord Gwydr etc. and certainly a lot about the locality and the large houses and occupants.
There are several small booklets on the area written by the Local History Recorder for Stoke Park and the Local History Recorder for Stoke.
They are also both members of the Local History Group.
I will PM you the details for Stoke Park LHR and I am sure he will be able to help you further.
Pat ...
Hon Recorders' Secretary
Suffolk Local History Council
www.slhc.org.uk
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If you go to http://maps.google.com/ and look for Ranelagh Rd Ipswich you can go to street view and "walk" along the road and see the houses
yokel
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I lived in Ranelagh Road for a short while when I was a child, as my great-grandmother owned some of the houses there. I also went to Ranelagh Road School intermittently - my father was in the RAF so when he was posted somewhere we couldn't go, it was back to Ipswich for us until he returned. I remember the garden of the house backed onto the railway line and it was terribly exciting living there, with the big steam engines going past.
I also used to go to the Lairs on sunny days!
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Ranelagh road WAS an awesome place to live "greensleeves" We lived there 11 years in total... we were nearer to the town end of the road, the houses seemed to get bigger as you went up the road... and we were about 6 from the end. massive garden, backing right onto the railway line! no steam trains tho :-( but thankfully the line behind our house was purely used a s a siding. always a squirrel or two in the garden. loved it! also, thanks to Pat for your information on stoke park. I will try the website you have advised.
tracie
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Spotty Frog, when you have sent another post, that will make the three that you need to be able to exchange PMs (private messages) to your Inbox on here.
I will then PM you the email address of the chap who has written booklets about the area - he is the Local History Recorder for that area of Ipswich and the chair of the local history group there.
Pat ...
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Sorry to mis-spell your name, I have been watching the little frogs in my garden today. Have frogs on the brain at the moment ::)
Pat ...
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thats quite alright Pat! ;D Thanks again for the information.
Tracie
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I also have an interest in addresses in Ipswich. Two of my ancestors, John Denny and Emma Eliza Block, were married at the parish church of St Clements, Ipswich, on April 20, 1878. On their certificate, John's address is given as 6 Orford Place, St Clements, and Emma's as 9 Potter Street, St Clements. I can't find either road on a modern map. Do they still exist? If not, where were they?
One of their offspring, Alice Maud Mary Denny, was born on November 14, 1881, and the place of her birth is given on her certificate simply as Key Street, Ipswich. I believe, on the evidence of census returns, that this was actually the Maltsters Arms, long gone. The excellent Old Suffolk Pubs website gives some details of the pub/beerhouse but no picture and it seems probable that none exists if they haven't been able to raise one. But does anyone have a picture of Key Street itself as it was in those days? I'd really like to see one. I've not been able to visit the area since I discovered the family connection, and won't be able to soon, and I understand that it has changed beyond all recognition.
John Denny and his brother Robert certainly kept the Maltsters Arms (is it spelt Maltsters or Malsters?) either together or separately at some time. But by the time Alice's mother registered her birth (which she did on Christmas Eve 1881), although the occupation of father is given as publican, the mother's address is given as 20 Orwell Street, Ipswich. Was that also a pub or beerhouse? I haven't been able to answer that question myself.
I don't think that John and his wife had separated. They were certainly still together when they later moved to Debenham and took over the Eight Bells there.
In summary...
1 Where are/were 6 Orford Place and 9 Potter Street, both in St Clements.
2 Was 20 Lower Orwell Street a pub/beerhouse? Does a picture exist?
3 Are there any pictures of Key Street as it was in the 1800s?
Thank you for reading this. AF
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I have looked at my 1902 map of Ipswich (Alan Godfrey Maps at www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk) and this area is where a lot of clearance took place in the 1960s. It is where the 'old' Suffolk College development took place and of course very close to the docks - now completely refurbished and home to Suffolk University Campus.
Between Key Street (still there) - Fore Street - Lower Orwell Street (still there) was home to several Maltsters, there were Malthouses all around the area.
Orwell Street - there is Upper Orwell Street that leads into Lower Orwell Street, so maybe she left of the first part of the street name?
Best source of photographs is of course The Suffolk Photographic Survey which is housed at the Ipswich branch of the Suffolk Record Office.
There are some photographs of this area of Ipswich Waterfront (old docks) at
http://www.rootschat.com/links/09fd/
Pat ...
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Many thanks for your interest, Pat, and for the two websites, which I shall look at this evening. Unfortunately, I'm not able to get to Ipswich at the present time and so I shall not be able to take a look at the Suffolk picture collection. Perhaps in days past Orwell Street was simply that, and not split into Upper and Lower. Whatever, I'd still like to know if No 20 (Upper or Lower) was a pub. AF
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Certainly on the 1902 map the road was in two sections, the Lower part being nearest to the docks.
The SRO also have old maps of Ipswich from different years, I have a couple of them clip-framed, however since we put yet another book shelf in this room, the pictures have disappeared. ::)
Might be worth having a look at the SRO website and checking out the maps and parish packs for sale.
Pat ...
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PS
the Suffolk Sense of Place website has been revamped and is now back on line - not sure if any photographs there that might help?
http://www.suffolkheritagedirect.org.uk/
Pat ...
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Thanks for the additional info. Will look it up. AF