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Title: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: BettyofKent on Thursday 15 February 07 19:46 GMT (UK)
Ancestry mistrancriptions!

I'm researching the Stutely family, also spelt Stutley or Stuteley.
I don't mind that, it's what Ancestry does with it that is driving me mad.
So far I've had -
Stontly (Julius Stutely became Lulias Stontly)  Stately,  Stubley (Julius became Julia),  Stitely,  Stuley,  Steely (Eleanor Stutely became Eleascos Steely) & Stectly.
Someone else is also having trouble, as I've seen corrections for Stutchy & Stuteby.

This week I've spent hours looking for Julia Stutely. I couldn't find any trace of her, until I thought of looking on findmypast.com. I found what seemed to be her, & someone with a subscription very kindly  gave me the details & it was the right person.  Using the piece/folio numbers I decided to see what Ancestry had done with her.

Julia Stutely had turned into Julia SLUTSKY!!!

I give up.

 >:( >:( >:( >:(

Betty
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: kerryb on Thursday 15 February 07 19:49 GMT (UK)
Betty

You rant away!!  I'm with you.

I have a Samuel Traies in my tree, I could only find the 1841 and 1881 census for him, his daughter I found 1 census return for.

Some weeks ago someone suggest I try looking under Fraise as Fs and Ts get mixed up.  I found 2 census returns under Fraise and 1 under Praies.

Unbelievable and I told Ancestry so, if you compare the letters with other Ts on the same page it is absolutely simple!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)

Kerry
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: BettyofKent on Thursday 15 February 07 21:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Kerry

I didn't think I would be the only one with this problem ;D
The daft thing is, Ancestry give tips on reading old handwriting styles.
It should be required reading for the transcribers!
There really is no excuse for such sloppy work.

Betty
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: madammagician on Thursday 15 February 07 21:19 GMT (UK)
betty i did a lookup for glen yesterday Name Westlake was transcribed as kresleke! ???
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: BettyofKent on Thursday 15 February 07 21:59 GMT (UK)
The best one I've had, & it will take some beating, was Jemima Crumpler down as Fanina Oompler  ;D ;D ;D

Betty
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: PaulaToo on Thursday 15 February 07 22:10 GMT (UK)
Hubberston suddenly became Hobberaam....
Please, I know it's in Wales...but....
I gave up.
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: MrsLizzy on Thursday 15 February 07 23:00 GMT (UK)

Julia Stutely had turned into Julia SLUTSKY!!!

Betty


Julia SLUTsky!  that wasn't very polite of them, Betty.  Even if it had been true!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: madammagician on Friday 16 February 07 12:27 GMT (UK)
 ;D ;D sorry betty but fanina oompla! this could end up being a thread for the funniest mis transcriptions!
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: BettyofKent on Friday 16 February 07 13:58 GMT (UK)
A thread for the funniest mistranscription isn't a bad idea madammagician. Fanina Oompler will take some beating  ;D ;D ;D

Betty
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: janescroft on Friday 16 February 07 22:14 GMT (UK)
A thread for the funniest mistranscription isn't a bad idea madammagician. Fanina Oompler will take some beating  ;D ;D ;D

Betty

Was her job listed in the census as being an exotic dancer?!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: Simon G. on Saturday 17 February 07 04:40 GMT (UK)
I give up.
Yeah, I did that too this morning when I came across an Alfred Twyman on 1891 (who was actually a Finnis from THE NEXT HOUSE IN THE STREET, rather than that household).  They'd connected the wife in the next house (the head was AWOL...probably a fisherman) as James Twyman's wife...despite the fact he already had one in his own house! Someone at Ancestry is clearly incapable of:
a) Reading an address.
b) Working out that bigamy is illegal.

 ::)
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: KathMc on Sunday 18 February 07 11:36 GMT (UK)
Betty, I couldn't agree more. The worst is when you actually look at the census, and it is quite obvious what the name is.  >:( My poor gg grandfather is on 7 census and only transcribed correctly once. I searched years for him.

Kath
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: trish251 on Sunday 18 February 07 12:06 GMT (UK)
I have been know to rant on about Ancestry as well, but I really don't think it  is so much worse than some of the others ( but I do have  a Daniel Farmilo who turned into David Sannell - found by Arranroots  :)  ). Sometimes I think the enumerators have much to answer for & searching the records on ScotlandsPeople I seem to have to use alot of * to find the required entries.

I would really like it if the search modules could use the name features used by the LDS on their data base - e.g. search for Elizabeth and get all the possible variations - Betty, liz, lisa etc. They do similar with surnames & this helps immensely in the searching.

Trish
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: Comosus on Sunday 18 February 07 19:34 GMT (UK)
Sometimes I try looking for a person on ancestry without putting anything in the surname - just using their first name and place of birth but it's only really helpful for those born in villages.  I found someone through this method whose surname was Sunderland but was mistranscribed as Fanderland!

Andrew
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: suey on Monday 19 February 07 11:44 GMT (UK)

You just need to be inventive, even using just the first name does not always work. So try the first three or four letters of the name and *

I found an Elizabeth under Elish ??? on the image it is plainly Eliz'th

Suey
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: BagpussBee on Monday 19 February 07 13:27 GMT (UK)
I had Lillystones that turned into Sillystones!

Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: shellyesq on Tuesday 20 February 07 16:40 GMT (UK)
I found one on Ancestry that had 3 question marks in lieu of the first three letters of the surname.  It took me a while to track that one down.  I only found it with the first name and the name of the town. 
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: KathMc on Wednesday 21 February 07 21:36 GMT (UK)
I often do that too Shelly, and I have been able to turn up many relatives. Doesn't work so much in the big cities when the relative is Mary  or some such  ;D ;D, but it's sometimes all we've got.

Kath
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: pennine on Thursday 22 February 07 02:19 GMT (UK)
I have Bell trancrsibed as Bull, Ball, Balles, Beales, Well, Hell, Nell, Gell etc. Do I need to go on? The worst I have seen is Bright transcribed as White and Broit. Maybe the transcribers' regional accent comes into play here? A Londoner may say Bright but someone with a Jordie accent would pronounce it Broyit. ( as in Boy It,  but with an R.)
Pennine
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: Emmeline on Thursday 22 February 07 02:32 GMT (UK)
Just this week on Ancestry I have found that my Alexandrina DUNBAR had turned into a SWAN  ::) ::)
Havn't quite fathomed how they did that yet.......
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: Emmeline on Thursday 22 February 07 02:35 GMT (UK)
Have just remembered another of mine - Zachariah Tricker - he turned up as Bracknard Triack  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: PaulaToo on Thursday 22 February 07 10:49 GMT (UK)
I know I'm always ready to knock Ancestry and their transcriptions, but I've got to admit it's not always their fault.
I have Mary Ann in Portsmouth, married as Byles, on her daughter's birth certificate as formerly Bayles, and baptised as Boyles. I suppose a lot depends on how the person said the name, and how the person writing it down was used to spelling it.
This is very clear in the case of Mary Ann's grandson, born in Portsea as Walter Harmsworth Moore.
Married in Reading as Walter Harmsworth Moore, because he knew how to spell his own name, but his death reported by his brother in law who was so obviously a Reading man with the infamous Reading accent who gave the name Walter 'Armsworth Moore. I had to smile at that one. :)
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: richdean on Sunday 20 June 10 20:30 BST (UK)
http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=6807.0

Hello, if you log on to the above url, you will see a photo of a monument to the Stutely family in Sheerness.
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: BettyofKent on Sunday 20 June 10 22:20 BST (UK)
Hello richdean, welcome to RootsChat :)

Thank you for that link, I'll keep a note of it. I haven't found any of my Stutelys in Sheerness yet, but it's quiet possible I will.

I now have 30 variations of Stutely courtesy of Ancestry mistranscriptions ;D


Betty
Title: Re: Excuse me while I rant about....
Post by: IgorStrav on Wednesday 23 June 10 22:13 BST (UK)
I think I've told this forum before about my Amy Buckle who was transcribed as KING BACKLE.

It was a page trawl that turned her up, not a search through the transcriptions...... ;)