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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: jonjor on Wednesday 07 February 07 20:16 GMT (UK)
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Interested in Joe and Fanny Cookson. Possible married and buried in same area -
Winsford, Sandbach etc.
jonjor
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Hello Jonjor
In reply to your Lancs thread
Could this be your Joseph
1891 census
Robert Hewitt 68 farmer b Chester Over
Ann 71 wife b ditto
William Cookson 33 son in law no place of birth stated
Emma Cookson 31 wife b Over
Alice Ann ditto 7 dau ditto
Joseph 5 son ditto
Marguarite 3 dau ditto
William H 1 son ditto
Edward H 12 son b ditto
Sarah A Gillot 17 servant
Charles Bebbington 29 servant
Joseph Wibhinove? 59 servant
address Baik House Oulter Lowe Northwich Over
RG12 2840 fol 152 p 14
Hope this is some help but without more information it is impossible to be accurate
Isobel
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Many thanks for your effort with the cooksons but don't think those names fit in so far.
Wish i had more details. It's one of my brick walls at the moment
jonjor
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Hi Jonjor, I think I have solved your mystery? My wife (pen name sadie)pointed this out to me and I am related to the Cooksons. I can go back to the year 1595 with them, however first lets establish about Joe and Fanny.......I will start with my great grandfather Joseph Cookson, born Hartford cheshire in 1863 he married Sarah Hannah FAIRBAIRN, of Eccles Manchester, they had 3 children Ethel, My grandmother, Mary Ellen, Known as Fanny and finally Joseph....Joseph Jnr married Francis Douglas(also known as Fanny). Joseph Jnr was a farmer, as was his father, he farmed originally in Risley Moss, nr Eccles, and his father at Meadowbank farm, Winsford, when Joseph Snr died, Joseph jnr took over the farm at Meadowbank. I know very little of Francis Douglas, but Mary Ellen(sister to Joe) married a Cecil Blower of Northwich and lived in Cuddington, cheshire. She died in 1955. Joe, when he retired from farming, had a house built in St Georges Road, Over, Winsford , he moved out after the death of his wife and moved to Cuddington to live with his sister, whose husband had died. Joseph jnr had no children and died in 1950. I have photo's of both josephs and fanny and also his grandfather, also a Joseph. and one of Joseph snr and Sara Hanna Fairbairn.. I am sure, these will be the family you are looking for, whats the connection??? Jim, husband of (sadie)
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I have transcribed this marriage from the film of the parish registers if it's of any help to either of you ( I was interested in the Blower connection). Cecil's parents were Thomas Blower and Elizabeth Williams.
St John’s. Hartford.
26 JUL 1911 Cecil BLOWER/27/bach/Bricklayer/Witton/Thomas Blower/Waterman m Mary Ellen COOKSON/24/spinster//Hartford/Joseph Cookson/Farmer & Merchant. After Banns. Witnessed by Ethel Cookson, Helen Wrench, Fred Forster & Joseph Cookson.
Regards,
Odessa.
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Hi Odessa, Thanks for that, I was already aware, as I said its in my husband, Jim's tree, but its strange, we have discovered that My husband and I are fourth cousins!, I am also related to the Cooksons via the marriage of Ellen Vernon and Joseph Cookson in 1849 the vernons are in both my tree and Jims..I dont know if you recall you helped me with my Deakin ancestry, I have a further question and I dont want to be cheeky, but you are so knowledgeable on this subject!! My great , great Grandmother was Sarah Deakin daughter of John Deakin and Elizabeth Tomkinson. as you know Sarah married John Rogerson, His father was William, and his mother Hannah Vernon(hence the connection with Jim), for two yrs I have been trying to establish who Williams parents were, Merril doesnt really help as it has several possibles, we live in Spain, and cannot visit Cheshire record office, I was wondering if you might have this information or know how to obtain it? I do hope that Jonjor see's the information from Jim , as We are convinced it may help him(Jim got my Rootsweb name wrong and called me Sadie........men!!) once again thanks for the contact, Jim has a photo of Mary Ellen and Cecil Blower if you are connected to this name he will be pleased to let you have it??
regards Kassi(not Sadie)
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Hello again Kassi - thought the "Sadie" looked odd. ;)
I've got a really odd mix of Rogersons at the moment appearing with different families and none of them belonging to a William.
You probably need to look at the auxillairy baptism registers for St Helen's at Witton - the baptism for John Rogerson should give you his parents name and each of the sets of grandparents also.
Regards,
Odessa
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Hi Kassi/Jim
You've certainly solved my interest in the Cooksons at Meadowbank Farm and filled in bits of info. which was niggling me. My connection is that my father - William Fairbairn - was the son of Robert Fairbairn - youngest brother of Sarah Hannah Fairbairn - cousin to Ethel & Joseph Cookson. I was evacuated to Winsford for a short time at the beginning of the war and stayed with auntie Ethel & uncle Jim Hickson at the butchers in the High Street, Winsford. I've only been trying to trace ancestors for a short time compared with some and am still learning so am interested to know how you have managed to get back as far as 1595? I have only got back to about 1794 for William Fairbarin who was born in Berwick, Scotland and then moved to Camberwell. Have you by any chance managed to trace James Edward and William Louis Fairbairn. They were the middle brothers of Sarah Hannah? They both married in 1884 to Mary Sharples and Caroline Melloy respectively. After this can find no trace in any census. Is it possible that Jim's mother was Eileen Preston nee Hickson?
Regards jonjor
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Hi there Odessa
Your details to Kassi over Mary Ellen Cooksons/Cecil Blower's marriage has filled in a few more details on my 'family tree'. Many thanks. jonjor
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jonjor, this is a long shot. My mother told me that she was related to the Cooksons in the Northwich area and I noted that you have a Northwich branch in your research.
All I currently know is that they had a Jewellers shop in Witton Street. My mothers maiden name was Davies, her mothers maiden name was Lewis. They are from: Helsby, Birkenhead, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Liverpool. Do any of these connect with the information that you have?
Regards
Kathb
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Hi Kathyb
Many thanks for your info regarding the Coooksons but none of the names you mention fit in with the info I have so far but again thanks for trying to help.
jonjor
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jonjor, thanks for replying. Another brick wall to break down!!
Kathb
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Hi Kassi/Jim
You've certainly solved my interest in the Cooksons at Meadowbank Farm and filled in bits of info. which was niggling me. My connection is that my father - William Fairbairn - was the son of Robert Fairbairn - youngest brother of Sarah Hannah Fairbairn - cousin to Ethel & Joseph Cookson. I was evacuated to Winsford for a short time at the beginning of the war and stayed with auntie Ethel & uncle Jim Hickson at the butchers in the High Street, Winsford. I've only been trying to trace ancestors for a short time compared with some and am still learning so am interested to know how you have managed to get back as far as 1595? I have only got back to about 1794 for William Fairbarin who was born in Berwick, Scotland and then moved to Camberwell. Have you by any chance managed to trace James Edward and William Louis Fairbairn. They were the middle brothers of Sarah Hannah? They both married in 1884 to Mary Sharples and Caroline Melloy respectively. After this can find no trace in any census. Is it possible that Jim's mother was Eileen Preston nee Hickson?
Regards jonjor
Hi again Jonjor, is that Joan of Joan and norman!!!My Mum as you say was Eileen Preston, she used to visit Lil and Bill in stretford, are you Joan the daughter??My sister christine said you were just starting this research thing!!. Let me have your e.mail address and I will contact you about the Cooksons line, which as I say goes back to 1595, I have a mountain of info on them but little on the Fairbairn side. I have attached a couple of pics, the baby is my mum with Ethel( Nan) and great grandma Sarah Hanna, nee Fairbairn, the couple are Joseph My great uncle and his wife Francis(fanny) nee Douglas, I have others, plus paper cuttings and Wills regards Jim
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Hi Jim/Kassi
Yes I am Joan of Joan and Norman and Lil & Bill of Stretford. Many thanks for the photographs - much appreciated. Unfortunately I don't think I have any of the Fairbairns. If I have I don't know who they are as most of those I have seem to be of my mother's side of the family and then I there are no names or dates on them. Should be pleased to receive any more info you have on the Cooksons. If you would like what details I have on the Fairbairns please let me know.
My email address is
joan.sullivan1(at)btinternet.com
Again, many thanks
Regards jonjor
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Cooksons in Cheshire
We have Cookson ancestors who lived in the areas of Great Barrow, Tarvin, Tarporley, Clotton, Utkinton, Little Budworth, Sandbach, Winsford and Cuddington - probably many more too.
Most of them were millers and farmers, and one of them - James Cookson - was very wealthy. He lived at Utkinton Lodge but owned Hockenhull Hall, Holmestreet Hall, Park Hall and Woodford Hall near Winsford. When he died in 1877 he left money to build the church at Cotebrook.
Anybody out there got any connections or Cookson ancestry?
Cheers,
John
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Hi there John
The Cooksons that I am connected to don't, unfortunately, seem to be connected to your Cooksons. Mine starts with Joseph (1862) born in Eccles, married (Sarah Hannah Fairbairn) in Manchester, had a son Joseph, (1889) who moved to Winsford and owned Meadowbank Farm.
Can't see any traces of a James in my Cooksons but if you think of anything else that may help you please give a shout.
Good searching
Jonjor
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Hi John. Apologies for delay in getting back but had a bit of trouble sending reply.
The Cooksons I am connected to don't seem to be connected to your Cooksons. Mine starts with Joseph (1862) vorn in Eccles, married Sarah Hannah Fairbairn in Manchester. Had a son Joseph 1889 who moved to Winsford and owned Meadowbank Farm.
Can't see any traces of a James in my Cookson but if you think of anything else that may help you please give a shout.
Good searching
Jonjor
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Hi,My family are from the Cheshire area,Northwich.I wonder if anyone has any information?.
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Hi nanacat
My Cookson ancestors were from Eccles Manchester and then moved to Winsford near Northwich. If you think these Cooksons are part of your family and I can help please let me know
jonjor
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Hi,Jonjor,Iam not to sure,all I know is my grandfather had a brother called Arthur and i think two sisters,May,and Mable. Their parents had a wet fish shop in ,or near Northwich. In the mid -1920s they moved to Haverton near Middlesbrough to work on the docks and ICI,most of my Cookson family live in and around Billingham,and that's as much as I know.I would be really grateful for any help?.Regards Nanacat.
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Sorry nanacat none of the names you mention are in my Cookson tree.
so will not be able to help at all.
Jonjor
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Hi,Jonjor,my grandfathers name was walter cookson,is this of any help,Regards Nanacat
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Sorry nancat my cooksons Joseph born c1862 in Eccles, Salford, and he married Sarah Hannah Fairbairn, Their children were Mary Ellen (Nellie) Joseph and Ethel. Hope you find a link for Walter. Joseph Jnr. died in 1950 again in Winsford.
Sorry can't be of any more help to you.
Jonjor