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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: pegdoll on Tuesday 06 February 07 00:21 GMT (UK)
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A cousin has spent a lot of time trying to get to the roots of our Popkin line. She is now sure that Charles Popkin b 1840
parents were Henry Popkin b abt 1811
Harriot Rawlins b abt 1811 They married 13 April 1830 Southwark St Olave
Their children were left as orphans when Henry died 1852, Harriot had passed away in 1848. Their children ;
Alfred b abt 1836
Charles b abt 1840
Emma b abt 1842
Julia b abt 1845
I'm looking for anyone who can increase our knowledge on this family. The Children attended London District School Norwood, All Saints Croydon Surrey. regards pegdoll
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It looks like the ages of the children are a little out.
The children you mention are on 1851 census as inmates at the School in Norwood and p.o.b. given as not known - poor little mites , they probably didn't know how old they were!!!
I have found (what looks like) more children -and the mentioned children on 1841 census.
1841
Bath Street bethnal green middlesex
Henry popkins 30 S Weaver
Harriett 30
Harriett 10
Alfred 5
Emma 4
Charles 2
Walter 5mths
all b county
HO107/692/8 40 10
1851
Norwood All Saints Shool
Alfred Popkins 15
Charles 11
Emma 13
Julia 5
all described as inmates
all p.o.b. not known.
HO107 1601 664 15
Possible births/deaths
FreeBMD
Birth
Charles Popkins
Sept qtr 1838
Whitechapel 2 451
Birth
Walter Popkin
mar qtr 1841
Bethnal green
2 162
Death
Walter popkin
Sept qtr 1847
bethnal green
2 53
Birth
Julia Popkin
Mar qtr 1845
Whitechapel
2 ?o2
I have a possible marriage for Julia
Back tomorrow
Suz
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Thankyou so much for the time you have taken for me. My cousin and I have been trying to find the correct Charles Popkin for a number of years as there are three born about this time and area. By a process of elimination we have Charles born August 1839 Bethnal Green to Henry and Harriot Popkin. The problem was that Charles "married" Louisa Smith and had a large family but there is no marriage! Family history said they did not marry and we have done a lot of work on this and found no marriage.
Thankyou again regards pegdoll.
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Have you checked this marriage out?
Name is slightly different -but it does happen!!
There is only one male and two females on the page
FreeBMD
mar qtr 1865
on same page
Charles Pipkin
Louisa Hannah Broughton
Fanny Miles
Kensington
1a 10
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Did you get Louisa's name from children's birth cert?
Maybe she had been married before??
Suz
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Yes the Smith name came from the childrens birth certificates.
No we have not looked at the marriage you found.
We did look at Charles popkin & Louisa Alma Smith 1875 at West Ham same vol different page number but it was a dead end.
Thankyou for your help, it could be worth looking into.
regards pegdoll.
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I am wondering if you have the correct Charles - the one who we have been tracking who "married" Louisa - to me doesn't seem to be the same Charles who was in the Norwood school
That one seems to have married a Ruth???
Suz
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Two Charles Popkins about the right age in London census 1861
1 Charles Popkin 19 Apprent. Tailor born Mile End RG9/228/fol.62
2 Charles Popkin 22 Porter born Spitalfields
Ruth 18 born Maldon Essex RG9/262 fol 32
Jennifer
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one is Charles Popkin in 1871 the other Charles popkins in 1871.
Jennifer