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Title: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: Fiona67 on Sunday 04 February 07 06:38 GMT (UK)
Hi
This is a bit of a long shot but I am hoping there is someone out there who can help. I am looking for Richard Halcroft (or any variation of the spelling) who was b in about 1810 somewhere in England.  He came to Australia somewhere between 1829 and 1832 presumably as a convict. He married Mary George in 1843 in Kelso and moved to Molong and they had 10 children.  Mary was the daughter of a convict. I am really looking for when and how he came to Australia and anything about him from before that.  He really seems to be a bit of a brickwall. I will appreciate anything.

Regards
Fiona
Title: Re: Richard Halcroft
Post by: trish251 on Sunday 04 February 07 07:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Fiona

Bounty immigrants who arrived 1828-32 can be searched here
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=7385

Do you know for sure he was a convict? Many free settlers were coming to NSW by 1832.

Trish
Title: Re: Richard Halcroft
Post by: Fiona67 on Sunday 04 February 07 08:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks Trish....I'll certainly check that site.......family folklore says he was a convict but we have been unable to find any proof one way or another.  I am open to suggestion :-)

Fiona
Title: Re: Richard Halcroft
Post by: trish251 on Sunday 04 February 07 08:19 GMT (UK)
He does seem tricky to find - the spelling changes don't help either  :(   No doubt someone else will have more information.

Trish
Title: Re: Richard Halcroft
Post by: ChristineR on Sunday 04 February 07 09:02 GMT (UK)
The birth certificate of any of his later children might tell you what county in England he came from.  That will narrow things down a bit.

Christine  :)



Title: Re: Richard Halcroft
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 05 February 07 05:34 GMT (UK)
hello  there

there  is  a  record for Richard Halcroft  at  the State Record Office  in NSW

in  the deceased estate 
HALCROFT Richard Molong died 17/11/1890 duty paid 29/12/1890

whether or  not this  record  may  have any  information that will help  you  I  don't  know

regards jenn
Title: Re: Richard Halcroft
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 05 February 07 05:48 GMT (UK)
hello  there

also  you will find  a  photo of  his  headstone  and  his wife
at this  link

http://cemindex.arkangles.com/cemetery-inscriptions.php?id=62


regards jenn
Title: Re: Richard Halcroft
Post by: lcriding on Friday 23 March 12 05:22 GMT (UK)
Hi,

There is a Richard "Houlcroft" who was given a life sentence for stealing money, in the Lancaster Quarter Sessions, 12 July 1826.   He was later transported to NSW on board the "Albion", 21 September 1826.  He received his Ticket of Leave on 1 July 1835 in Bathurst.

Hope this helps.

Christine
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: bbong on Monday 08 February 16 07:47 GMT (UK)
Hi
 I am a decedent of Richard Halcroft (houlcroft)
he was my 3 great grandfather on my mothers side
Yes he is buried at Molong 
he was a convict sent out here at an early age
I believe I have found his parents but can not proof that they are
 
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: rosball on Monday 08 February 16 07:52 GMT (UK)
Hi bbong,
   Welcome to rootschat  :)

   Do you have the deceased estate file for Richard HALCROFT who died in Molong in 1890?   If not I can photograph it for you next time I am there.   

regards
   Ros
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: lcriding on Monday 08 February 16 10:34 GMT (UK)
Hi bbong,

I have potential parents of Richard Halcroft/Houlcroft as
Richard Halcroft born around 1783 Cheshire and
mother is Sarah Wilson born around 1784 Cheshire.
I got both of these from familysearch.org

Cheers,
Christine
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: bbong on Monday 08 February 16 19:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Christine
I believe 1783 would be too early because according to his head stone he was 80 when he died and he died 17 Nov 1890 which would make his birth about 1809 or 1810.
and one part of his convicts say he was born 1813 and another record says his date of trail was 12 jul 1826 at the age of 19

may I ask please where do u fit in to the family

Glenn

Hi Ros 
Yes Please
may I ask please where do u fit in to the family

Glenn
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: rosball on Monday 08 February 16 21:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Glenn,
   I don't fit into the family.   I try to get to NSW state records office once a month to photograph deceased estate files, probates etc for rootschatters.  So just shout if you see anything else which you'd like http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/

Ros
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 09 February 16 00:12 GMT (UK)
Glenn,

Christine was referring to Richard's parents:

Hi bbong,

I have potential parents of Richard Halcroft/Houlcroft as
Richard Halcroft born around 1783 Cheshire and
mother is Sarah Wilson born around 1784 Cheshire.
I got both of these from familysearch.org

Cheers,
Christine

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: majm on Tuesday 09 February 16 00:51 GMT (UK)
I think this would be Richard  :)

Richard HOULCROFT, age 19, Cotton Weaver, arrived 14 Feb 1827 under a life sentence.  Arrived on the Albion.   See Convict Indents NSW State Records

1 Jan 1842 Conditional Pardon #43/045

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-to-convict-records/indexes-to-convict-records

Cheers,  JM

Hi,

There is a Richard "Houlcroft" who was given a life sentence for stealing money, in the Lancaster Quarter Sessions, 12 July 1826.   He was later transported to NSW on board the "Albion", 21 September 1826.  He received his Ticket of Leave on 1 July 1835 in Bathurst.

Hope this helps.

Christine
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 09 February 16 01:39 GMT (UK)
Not much help ... :(  but he hadn't applied for his conditional pardon by 1850 (still in superintendents office unapplied for - they have 3 months or else ....)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page1511921   his name is on page 3

Ros
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: majm on Tuesday 09 February 16 02:11 GMT (UK)
Kelso marriage ALLCROFT-GEORGE, 18 Sept 1843. 
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTCP-X52
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTZK-GVS
From NSW BDM index, may I mention that Vol 27 is for C of E marriages, and  CL is for C of E, Kelso.
1843, Vol 27C, line 454, 
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx

NSW Electoral Roll 1870 WELLINGTON,
Richard HALCROFT, freehold, Gidley Street, Molong
Richard HALCROFT junior, residence, Molong.

NSW Electoral Roll 1878 WELLINGTON,
Richard HALCROFT, freehold, Gidley Street, Molong

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 09 February 16 03:05 GMT (UK)
A small obit to Richard HALCROFT who died in 1890 well-known as "Barragam Dick"  :)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65346019   He amassed much wealth  :)

A longer obit http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71184928 and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article139474593

adding   : obit to Mary his wife http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article140060795 and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article144736042
               
            : obit to his eldest daughter http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article101391808
            : obit to another daughter http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article99614246
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 09 February 16 03:18 GMT (UK)
Obit to youngest daughter http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article139470352

Ros

By the way I see Richard HALCROFT had a will  (contested here in part http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article14797669) so I will check for a probate packet for Richard and for Mary (their deaths are in the "gap years" for the online indexes but I can check on microfiche when I am there).
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: lcriding on Tuesday 09 February 16 03:50 GMT (UK)
According to my records Richard Halcroft got a Conditional Pardon on 1 January 1842.

CP 35/400 43/45 Recommended by John Street JP, John Piper JP, WH Sutton, JP and
Thomas J Hawkins JP, Bathurst. 4/4478 Reel 797 Page 184 State Records NSW.

My husband is related to Richard Halcroft through his daughter Maria Halcroft.  She married Edmund Shreeves in 1884 in Molong NSW.  Edmund's sister Mary Ann Shreeves (Barber) was my husband's great-grandmother.  Phew!
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 09 February 16 04:11 GMT (UK)
Yes he was granted a conditional pardon in 1842 but didn't collect it ("apply" for it) by 1850 and if he didn't do so within 3 months then ....
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: bbong on Tuesday 09 February 16 10:56 GMT (UK)
Hi All
this is very exciting
thank you to all for sharing info
I have found the death certificate to Richard Halcroft jrn's wife Maryann Costello
I know Richard Jrn was up for desertion and she dies as a Gannon she dies in Redfern Sydney
I found her death certificate in the Forbes family hostory rooms (where I am a member of)

Sorry I miss understood about his parents date
I have been online in the in the Church of St Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe
in the county of Lancashire Baptisms at st Michael in the Parish of Aughton
I am hoping this like works for you
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/cgi-bin/mkindx.cgi?parish=Clitheroe&type=Parish&community=

I have found a Richard Houlcroft with Parents George Houlcroft and Sarah BUT as I have said before I can not Prove it

See what People think please

I have Richard's father in laws death certificate and it says he was buried at the Kelso Church (Bathurst) but there is no evidence  of a grave there for him(I am guessing an Unmarked grave)

thanks Glenn
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: bbong on Tuesday 09 February 16 10:59 GMT (UK)
HI
I am related to Richard through Mary Halcroft married Charles Arthur Hull
My mother was a Hull

I have  a copy of a hand written will for Richard srn but I do not think it was his hand writing because he has put a cross for his name and I have a copy of Mary's Will

I know Richard was very generous to the Salvation Army in Molong


Glenn
Title: Re: Richard HALCROFT
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 09 February 16 13:59 GMT (UK)

I have been online in the in the Church of St Mary Magdalene, Clitheroe
in the county of Lancashire Baptisms at st Michael in the Parish of Aughton
I am hoping this like works for you
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/cgi-bin/mkindx.cgi?parish=Clitheroe&type=Parish&community=

I have found a Richard Houlcroft with Parents George Houlcroft and Sarah BUT as I have said before I can not Prove it


I think that child died:

Name: Richard Holcroft
Burial Date: 14 Mar 1815
Death Place: Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
Age:    9

Debra  :)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J85W-L65