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Title: mackman family
Post by: sylvann on Saturday 03 February 07 11:33 GMT (UK)

Can anyone help?  I am trying to trace the parents of my grandfather James Edward Mackman.  He was born 21st December 1894. His parents are listed on the certificate as Jacob Mackman and Mary Ann Mackman nee Hill.
The address is given as Spalding Road, Whaplode Drove.
Registration District is Holbeach and Sub District is Gedney Hill.
I cannot find a Jacob who married a Mary Ann Hill.
I would appreciate any information.

Title: Re: mackman family
Post by: Tati on Saturday 03 February 07 11:45 GMT (UK)

Hi Sylvann,

Welcome to RootsChat  8)

This is really odd - there is only one Jacob Mackman that I can see at all, and he lives in the right place in both 1891 and 1901.

Yet he has a wife Elizabeth. Searching for a Mackman/Hill marriage, this is the only one popping up:
Marriages Dec 1890
Holbeach  7a 793
Hill  Elizabeth Ann       
Mackman  Jacob     

Looks like a mistake on the birth cert to me ...

Title: Re: mackman family
Post by: Tati on Saturday 03 February 07 11:50 GMT (UK)

Have you got him in 1901?
(RG13/3035 40 1)
The children are Robert, Kate, Edward, Rose, Mildred, Ada.

Shout if you need details.  :)

Title: Re: mackman family
Post by: sylvann on Saturday 03 February 07 12:58 GMT (UK)

Many thanks, could be a mistake on b/certificate. Do you have any information on children as I seem to remember an aunt having polio as a child.

Title: Re: mackman family
Post by: Tati on Saturday 03 February 07 15:23 GMT (UK)

I can only give you census details - I hope the names ring a bell  :)

RG13/3035 40 1
Whaplode
Village
Jacob Mackman, head, 37, Groom & Gardener, b. Whaplode Drove
Elizabeth, wife, 35, b. Crowland
Robert, son, 9, b. Whaplode Drove
Kate, dau, 8, b. do.
Edward, son, 6, b. do.
Rose, dau, 4, b. do.
Mildred, dau, 2, b. do.
Ada, dau, 7 mo, b. do.

Tanja  :)

Let me know if you want previous census returns for Jacob and his parents.

Title: Re: mackman family
Post by: sylvann on Saturday 03 February 07 16:19 GMT (UK)

Hi Tati

everything is very helpful thankyou and i would be greatful for the other census records on Jacob

Title: Re: mackman family
Post by: Tati on Saturday 03 February 07 17:36 GMT (UK)

1891
RG12/2566 60 3
Whaplode Drove, Lincolnshire
Donnigons? Drove
Jacob Mackman, head, 26, Agricultural labourer, b. Dorodale
Elizabeth, wife, 24, b. Crowland

next door:
Sarah Mackman, head, wid, 63, Charwoman, b. Lincs Holbeach
John, son, unm, 37, Farm servant, b. Fleet Fen
James, son, s, 31, Farm servant, b. do.

The 1881 census index is free at either www.familysearch.org or www.ancestry.co.uk
Here is the family (reference RG11/3207 71 13)
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=12533199

Let me know if you can't open the link.

1871
RG10/3326 76 19
Whaplode, Lincolnshire
River Gate
James Mackman, head, 51?, Labourer, b. Fleet Fen
Sarah, wife, 43, b. Holbeach
John, son, 18, Labourer, b. Fleet Fen
James, son, 12, Labourer, b. do.
Sarah Ann, dau, 10, scholar, b. do.
Jacob, son, 5, scholar, b. do.
Kate, dau, 1, b. Whaplode Drove

Title: Re: mackman family
Post by: Tati on Saturday 03 February 07 18:13 GMT (UK)

James MacKman dies age 59 in Sep 1877*
Holbeach 7a 223
*you'll find his christening and the marriage of his parents on the IGI at www.familysearch.org

1861
RG9/2326 32 2 & 3
Fleet, Lincolnshire
Landgridge Gate
James Mackman, head, 44, Ag Lab, b. Fleet
Sarah, wife, 33, b. Holbeach
William, son, 16, Ag lab, b. Fleet
Robert, son, 15, Ag lab, b. do.
Caroline, dau, 13, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 10, b. do.
John, son, 8, scholar, b. do.
James, son, 2, b. do.
Sarah Ann, dau, 1 mo, b. do.

In the same Street, a Robert Mackman age 45 and family)

1851
HO107/2097 51 5
Fleet, Lincolnshire
The Lots
James Mackman, head, 32, Ag lab, b. Fleet Fen
Sarah, wife, 25, b. Holbeach
William, son, (age uneadable), b. Fleet
Robert, son, (age unreadable), scholar, b. do.
Caroline, dau, 3, b. do.
Mary E, dau, 8mo, b. do.

Title: Re: mackman family
Post by: sylvann on Saturday 03 February 07 20:01 GMT (UK)

thankyou for all the info i will look into it.

Title: Re: mackman family
Post by: Geoff E on Saturday 03 February 07 20:03 GMT (UK)

Quote from: Tati on Saturday 03 February 07 18:13 GMT (UK)

1851
HO107/2097 51 5
Fleet, Lincolnshire
The Lots
James Mackman, head, 32, Ag lab, b. Fleet Fen
Sarah, wife, 25, b. Holbeach
William, son, (age uneadable), b. Fleet
Robert, son, (age unreadable), scholar, b. do.
Caroline, dau, 3, b. do.
Mary E, dau, 8mo, b. do.

Next door

William MACKMAN 27 AgLab, Fleet
*Obedience 25 Crowland
Joyse 3 Fleet
Green (bro, wid) 34 AgLab, Fleet
Elizabeth (niece) 5 Fleet

*Excellent name for a wife! :D

Title: Re: Mackman family
Post by: Dulverton on Saturday 27 June 09 14:02 BST (UK)

Obediance Ann Mackman (nee Bates) born Crowland c1826 Died 1873 Holbeach District.
Obediance married William Mackman, born 1822 Gedney Hill died 1908 Holbeach District.
William was a son of William Green Mackman & Elizabeth Mackman (nee Pate)