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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: revmother2 on Thursday 01 February 07 23:33 GMT (UK)
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Hi
Just to say I have a book of Tarbolton Churchyard Monumental Inscriptions if anyone needs people looking up, just give me a shout! :)
If you're interseted I got it in Ayr Reference library for a small charge - don't know if it is still available.
Revmother
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Thanks for the kind offer. I visted the Churchyard recently but did not have a chance to do a complete search due to wind, rain and dark. I would be interested to know if there are any DEVLIN and McGAFFNEY surnames that I might have missed. I found one for PATRICK DEVLIN and MARY McGAFFNEY along with their children - Thomas, Patrick and Agnes. Are there any others?
Best regards,
Sean
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Hi Sean
Lair 176 - the one you found, also has on it: Edward devlin MBADT died 1 feb 1955 aged 85 and Peter J Devlin died 31 march 1978 aged 69.
Lair 215 - Charles Devlin died Annbank 5 march 1941 aged 79. his wife margaret n foster died annbank 9 sept 1944 aged 86. their dau ellen died 26 march 1954 aged 61.
lair 479 - in memory of Robert Devlin d 25 may 1982 aged 64 dearly loved nephew of the family;
Daniel C Donohoe died 22 jan 1985 aged 89 dearly loved husband of Elizabeth Devlin.
lair 480 - James Devlin died 4 august 1979 beloved husband of jessie McPhee; also their son Kenneth died as an infant.
That is the only McGaffney (the one you found) memorial in tarbolton churchyard. Do you know there is a more modern cemetery just outside the village? Along Montgomerie St, past the Black Bull PH, and after a while the road forks to the left and a wee bit further on the newer cemetery is on the left. McGaffney is still a name in the village and so is Devlin.
Hope these entries help you in your searches.
best wishes
revmother
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Thank you for the incredibly fast response and the addition of several names to my records. Unfortunately I did not know that there was a second village cemetery and only visited the older one while on a trip there from my home in the US in early January of this year. My records include a dozen or so other Devlins who were born in Tarbolton, but I have not made contact with any from the village. Do you know of any Devlins in the area who would be interested in sharing family history? If so, please feel free to put them in touch with me. Thanks again.
Sean
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Hi
Glad the memorials helped. Sorry, I'm not in the village any longer - moved to a new parish - but still got the book!
revmother
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If you are still offering lookups - could you please check for McCormick (or mack).
Thanks in advance.
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I've had a look in the index - really sorry, I can't see any.
revmother
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Thanks anyway.
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Are you are still willing to do look ups, if so could you look for the name Hendren please
Maureen
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Hi Maureen
Sorry no Hendren in Tarbolton Churchyard. henderson and Drennan are the nearest spellings. As I said before to someone else, there is another more modern cemetery in tarbolton, and I don't have a book for that one. (don't think there is a book for it). It is the cemetery still in use.
sorry I can't help this time
revmother
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Thanks for looking
Maureen
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Hello - I'd be really grateful if you could check for a John McGregor who died 1858 age 87 and according to the DC is buried at Tarbolton. He is listed as a widower but no wife's name mentioned and I am hoping that a MI may prove/disprove his wife to have been Alice or Alison Marshal(l) Mention of any children on the MI may also help.
Thank you very much :)
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hello mcgregor123
this is what i can find for you from the index:
lair 11 Hugh pearson died failford june 1839 aged 59 and his wife Janet McGregor died 18 oct 1870 aged 86.
lair13 george Bryan farmer in Benston d 6 dec 1849 aged 92 and his wife Mary McGregor d 22 nov 1849 aged 79
lair 250 John McGregor d at West Carngillan (a farm) 11 aug 1904 aged 58 also his wife MAry Shaw d at park Mill 9 aug 1916 in her 69th year.
doesn't appear to be an older one for the previous John McGregor, but these may help you trace folk a bit.
sorry no sign of any Marshalls at all. Many of the older graves have no memorials at all.
how have you got on with Scotlands People site looking for a marriage for him? or on a census return?
good hunting
revmother
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Thanks very much for checking for me. I know that the John McGregor I am looking for was married to Alice/Alison Marshal(l) and that he died before 1859, probably in Ayrshire, and I have this Death Cert but I can't say if it is for the right JM or not. It may be that he died before 1855, but if there had been a MI with the wife &/or children's details, I would have hit the jackpot!
If family history was straightforward, we wouldn't do it! Many thanks for taking the time to check.
McGregor
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Hello
I wonder if you could look up in the index for me. I have James Muir marrying Margaret McGrigour on 10 Nov 1797 at Tarbolton. Can you see anyone in the churchyard likely to belong to this couple?
many thanks,
Fairlane
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Hello Fairlane
McGregor there, not your spelling. the cemetery doesn't go abck as early as them.
there are 2 McGregors -
lair 11 - Hugh pearson, Mason, Failford d june 1839 aged 59 and his wife janet McGregor d 18 oct 1870 in her 86 year.
Lair 13
George Bryan late farmer in Dykes d 6 dec 1849 aged 80, his wife Mary McGregor d 22 nov 1849 aged 79.
there were McGregor's in Dykes Farm until a few years ago.
The only Muir is Marion Muir in lair 153 as wife of David Mackie d 1 aug 1893 aged 58.
Hope these help a bit
revmother
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Hello Revmother
Many thanks for your incredibly quick response. I'm just getting to grips with the variety of spelling of the same names - don't think the McGregors belong but I'll do some searching forward down the line to see if this is a branch off. I have baptisms for two of the children of this couple in Mauchline in 1798 and 1800 (unfortunately both girls - one of whom is my mother's line) and hoped to find either James or Margaret's parents in the graveyard!
Many thanks,
Fairlane
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hi
More likely to be in the Mauchline cemetery 8 miles up the road!
sorry
don't have the book for it.
revmother
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Hi,
Any chance you could look up the names David and Janet Neil? Thanks for your kind offer.
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Hi Welshgirl
No joy, sorry. You don't give any idea of dates. The cemetery is mainly 19th century, as there is a new cemetery outside the village that has been used since then, and there isn't a book for it.
Any Neil or Neill's weren't those first names, sorry
revmother
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Fairlane,
So very very strange as I am reading these posted messages. My maiden name was "Muir". On my father's side my ancestral roots are in Scotland.
My great grandfather was James Muir. He was born Jan. 6, 1826 in Kilmarnock, Ayreshire, Scotland. He died Mar. 11, 1910 in Canada. My great grandmother was Jane Maxwell. She was born June 2, 1836 in Scotland. She died Dec/ 18, 1927 in Canada. Jane was the daughter of Hugh Maxwell. I do not know her mother's name.
Thought I would pass this on.
Doris
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Looking for any Nelson that may be buried there.
Liz Nelson
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Hi, thanks for your kind offer .
could you lookup LOWRIE (any spellings )
also GREER (any spellings)
regards sue
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Hi Liz and Sue
Sorry Sue, I can't see any of the folk you are looking for.
Liz - just one nelson -
In loving mem of Peter Nelson beloved husband of Elizabeth Forsyth d 9 july 1948; also the above Elizabeth Forsyth d 24 Oct 1987 age 84.
Hope that helps
regards
revmother
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Thank you for taking the time to look for me , at least i can cross that church of the list .
regards sue . :)
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Hi Sue
There is a Lowrie mentioned in the St Quivox book (on the edge of Ayr about 5 miles from Tarbolton)
Erected by James Hamilton in loving memory of his wife Sarah Lowrie d 11 July 1932 aged 82, also the above James Hamilton d 19 dec 1932 aged 89.
don't know if that one is any good for you.
regards
revmother
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morning , and thank you for that info , i am not sure if it applies but i am logging it down , we do have the name sarah in the family so might just fit , thanx again ,
1 other thing , the problem i have with this family is , james lowrie b1811 moved to liverpool and married agnes greer b 1812, on there marraige cert it says they were born in scotland , james dad was a butcher called john lowrie , agnes dad was a fireman, called john greer,.also from scotland .
i have no idea were in scotland they all came from so have been trawling through all the names on all the sites trying to work out were they came from , then i can get birth certs for all .
What a nightmare lol, thanks again for your help .
regards
sue
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Hi Thanks alot.
Do you have any info on StQuivox and Newton areas. I believe that some of the Nelson's and O'Hara's may be buried their. Would you know where I could get this info
Thanks again
Liz
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hi liz
st quivox:
erected by Isaac Irvine in loving memory of his wife Jane Nelson d at Main lodge Auchincruive 27 feb 1926 aged 83, Isaac 9 feb 1932 ans their son William d 23 oct 1951 aged 75 and his wife margaret Wyper d 25 mar 1960 age 75.
In mem of David McAlpine beloved husb of Martha O'hara d 26 may 1969 age 68, and martha 26 july 1974 aged 77
newton green cemetery:
erected by Jane Baird in mem of her husb William Clark d 28 july 1867 aged 60.
various others and then: John Nelson, uncle to Wm Clark d dec 1864 aged 56.
O'hara
1) agnes vance or o'hara d 21 june 1889 age 76 (o'hara obviously her maiden name) others on this too - all Vance.
2)ereceted y Margaret Mc Alister in mem of her husb Dugald O'hara d at Annbank 4 may 1905 aged 55, also dau Elizabeth d 23 aug 1895 age 15, gson Tom o'hara 7 oct 1915 aged 11, son John o'hara d 6 oct 1921
and Mgt McAlister d 26 sept 1923 aged 70. That's a sad one.
3) erected by Christina O'hara in mem of her husb James Brown d at Drumdow Stair 14 jan 1895 aged 56
sons James d age 10 monts, peter age 2, wm age 11, and Christina o'hara d 29 jul 1923 aged 84. O dear, another sad one.
Wallacetown cemetery
agnes nelson in mem of her husb john mcfedries d 19 april 1879 age 66. she died d 26 mar 1896 aged 85. also family memebers, if youa re intersted.
I hope some of this helps
revmother
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Hi Sue
have you tried the scotland web site : www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - you can search for births etc on there. It might give you some clues. you pay for 30 credits that cost £6 and last about 90 days (I always use them in less than a week!!) I don't have any credits on there at the moment or I would look them up for you. but you can look up their births and marriage. remember to tick the soundex box if a certain spelling of the surname doesn't come up with anything. just had a free peep - only 25 Lowries born in scotland between 1810 and 1812, so you might be able to narrow that down a bit if you pay up your pennies!
the birth certificates would certainly help you.
good hunting
revmother
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Hi Sue
I've done some searches on www.Ancestry.co.uk and come up with this -
first on www.familysearch.org 1881 census James Laurie 69 born scotland printer compositer, and Agnes his wife also born scotland age 63 printer compositer's wife. address: 25 woodside Street, West derby.Lancs.
so on ancestry:
the dates all go a bit wrong but
1871 in west derby, Liverpool they are there with a son william aged 20. but James and Agneas are both 50.
1861 living west derby, lancs James lawrie age 41 b 1820 and Agnes 41 both b scotland he's still on as printer compositer,
3 children
alexander 20 born scotland, - a ship smith
William 11 born liverpool,
and Agnes 5 born liverpool.
can't find them on 1851.
you really need to get on the scotlands people site to trace them further back.
hope this is of some help
regards
revmother
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Hi again Revmother,
I have been on all those sites i spent a fortune on scotland people (but dont tell OH) ::).
I got all the names of possible parents for james and agnes, but have spent weeks going off in the wrong directions , i know that on the 1861 cesus , agnes was not at home, but james sister margeret from scotland was visiting , so i searched all deaths for agnes and came up with died 1858, havent found her on any other census after that so think that is her . I have the names of children , 1 was called james who is my direct line , so i think i am on the right track there .
I have trawled all the greer,s in scotland , in all counties , but there were so many of them that came from ireland , so not sure which way to go .
I have been trying to trace the lowrie,s in scotland by , james dad john was a butcher on maraige cert and he had a sister called margaret , am i getting myself in a mess ? or do you think this is the way to go ?.
Thank you for your advise and help .
regards sue
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Hi Sue
If only you could find james on the 1841 census - he would be at home with his parents then perhaps, but it is difficult when the ages vary so much.
Interesting that the eldest son Alexander was born in Scotland. What if you found out his birth details, it would at least give you the part of Scotland that they were living then.
It's one of those searches that can take a while to get tot he root of. but you will, in time. do another bit of your tree and come back to it later!
regards
revmother
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Hi ,
You must be really sick of me now ,
James moved to liverpool before the 1841 census as he married agnes in liverpool in 1839 and was living in frederick st liverpool , i think the james and agnes with the son alexandre is another family , as the children i have for them are
Agnes b1841
george b1845
isabella b1847
and james b 1850
all born in everton liverpool .
I have them on all census records .
As i said there was no agnes in 1861 census , then 1871 cant find james b1811 but think i found death records for him and agnes .
Well i think i have troubled you enough , i am searching scotlands people for margaret lowrie b 1822 father john from scotland to cross reference any john lowrie i find with daughter margaret and son james born the dates as above .
I dont often ask for help as i feel i am putting on folk , but i have say how much i appreciate you taking the time to help and advise me like this ,
best regards
sue
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Many thanks for your help.
Is there any other churchyard that people living in tarbolton may have been buried at. In particular Annie /Agnes Nelson(msDoyle) and Ellen Nelson(Finneran) and some of Ellens children. They all died in Tarbolton in either Garden Street or Montgomery Street.
Thanks again Liz
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Hi Liz
I had a look at the surnames you ask about, but you don't give any dates. I can't see anyone with those names at all. There is a large area of Tarbolton cemetery that has no memorial stones - they would be some of the oldest graves, I think. Also, there is a much newer cemetery that is in current use that I don't have a list for. I'm sorry I can't help.
I too have relatives who lived and died in Tarbolton, and they don't appear on my list of memorials. It's all very frustrating.
best wishes
revmother
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Hi
The Nelson's died in the 1880's to 1900. I must agree that it is very frustrating when you cannot find who you are looking for. Thanks again for all your help..
Liz
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Could you check the name McJanet please. My g g g grandfather William McJanet was born in Tarbolton in 1790. I have no information on his parents other than names - William McJanet and Margaret Bryan. Its worth a look for family if you have the time. Thank you very much!
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Hi
can't lay my hands on the book just now, but I'll get back to you when I find it. Just been changing my study round this weekend.
revmother
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Hi
If you're still offereing lookups, could you look up
John GRAY b abt 1773 died before 1841 (I believe, can't find him on the 1841 census), also his father, another John GRAY born about 1750 died bef 1841. Sorry can't give you any more details, John junior's wife was Margaret Stewart (she died 1861 in Kilmarnock).
Many thanks
Carol
Hull, Eas Yorkshire
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Hello,
Sorry for the intrusion, but on checking my e-mails I saw where one of the RootsChat team had sent me some information, but I discovered it was
re"Tarbolton Churchyard. On this I had not requested information.
I did post a message for help on information on Webster/Lee - Newport.
Would you be able to look into this and be able to find just what went on here.
Doris
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Hello Carolann,
Sorry for the intrusion here, but I feel a mixup of some sort has occured.
I am a senior who resides in Nova Scotia, Canada. For a goodly number of years I have been trying to trace my England roots/
I found the RootsChat team to be very helpful to me.
I noted from your posts that your subject was "Tarbolton Churchyard" An e-mail me was sent me in regards to this request. I was searching my Family Tree but I found no mention of this churchyard. I feel bad that I am of no help.
May I add that my Ancestral roots are from Donnington Wood/Lilleshall areas.
Good luck in your searching.
Regards.
Doris
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Hi Doris
I've alerted the Moderator of your queries, I hope it gets sorted for you.
revmother
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Revmother2
Thank you for your reply. Re Tarbolton Churchyard, I am sure all will be resolved I notiiced on the bottom of your posting a list of surnames. I could not help but notice the name Gittens. I had a Great Uncle Moses Humpherson who married Mary Ann Gittens. She was born 1839. Just thought I would mention this.
I had started this message previously and guess my finger touched the wrong key, so it either got posted or it didn't, so hopefully all is OK.
Kindest regards,
Doris
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Hi
I have a few Fulton's in Tarbolton in the 1700 and 1800's and wondered if you had any information on them in the churchyard.
Regards
Ian
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Hi
When you have a free moment could you look for a James Davidson burial in Tarbolton. He died January 1865 at Annbank. Many thanks and regards, Karen
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Karen.
On just reading my e-mails, I am told by a RootsChat team that I had a topic on RootsChat I was interested in. I feel I should contact you on this. I have never heard of Tarbolton Churchyard. I do not .know its location and I have no ancestors, that I am aware of that is buried in this cemetery.
I am sure there has been a mixup of some sort, even though I received the message on my e-mail address.
I hope it can be sorted out.
regards,
Doris
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Badoux,
You posted a reply (no 20) on this thread on 9 May last year (2007) about the surname Muir.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,211611.msg1236769.html#msg1236769
Hence why you have now been advised that someone has added a message.
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Nell
RootsChat Moderating Team
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Nell,
Sorry about that, yes I was searching the surname Muir. My Great Grandfather was James Muir, born Jan. 6. 1826 in Kilmarnock, Ayreshire, Scotland. I guess what threw me in all this was the name "Tarbolten Churchyard.
Regards,
Doris
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Hi,
if you have time could you tell me if there are any Hislops recorded in the cemetary. I have traced to a John Hislop who was schoolmaster at Tarbolton in 1796
Thanks Laura