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Title: Watch Maker
Post by: pettsy on Thursday 01 February 07 09:19 GMT (UK)
Is there any records of Watch Maker in Birmingham.
My ggg grandfather was a Watch Maker and Jeweller on the census from 1841 - 1871.

Thank you

Pettsy
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: Nutty1966 on Thursday 01 February 07 10:15 GMT (UK)
Hi

have you tried having a look here

http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/index.asp


I had a look on g****le for watchmakers Birmingham, and many hits come up, maybe if you enter his name you may strike gold!   ;D


Jane
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 01 February 07 12:34 GMT (UK)
Pettsy- my husband has a few books which lists clock and watchmakers. If I have a name I can take a look for you.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: pettsy on Thursday 01 February 07 14:09 GMT (UK)
Thank you Nutty 1966,
Good idea with putting in his name, but no luck so far  :(

Hi aghadowey
Thank you.
His name was Issac Turner.
And in 1861 his sons Frank Claude and George Thomas were Jeweller apprentices.
And by 1871 Jewellers.

If you find anything on the Turners that would be great.

Thank you

Pettsy
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 01 February 07 14:25 GMT (UK)
Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World, Brian Loomis, vol. 2:
Isaac Turner. Birmingham. 1842-1860.
also- William Turner. Birmingham. 1880.

Didn't find Frank Claude or George Thomas Turner.

Nothing found in volume 1.

If there's a clock museum in or near Birmingham they might have a record of the Turners. Also local directories should give addresses and how long they were in business.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: pettsy on Thursday 01 February 07 16:08 GMT (UK)
Hi aghadowey

Thank you.

I will see if they have the book in my local library, to photocopy.
And look on my census to find aout if I have  William Turner on it.

They have a museum in Coventy, is that the one?

Thank you

Pettsy
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 01 February 07 17:56 GMT (UK)
Not sure where clock museum near Birmingham would be but also check Birmingham museums. Sometime museums have information/exhibits on local industries, etc.
Book doesn't give any more information than what I posted but if you want a photocopy of the page send me a pm with your address and I'll send it to you.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: poppymilly on Sunday 04 February 07 19:59 GMT (UK)
hi any body have any info on the name hendrick they were watchmakers in london in 1800s
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 04 February 07 21:07 GMT (UK)
Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World, vol. 2, Brian Loomes lists two:
T.J (or T.A.) Hendrick, London, 1844-51
Thomas Hendrick, London, 1857-63.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: poppymilly on Sunday 04 February 07 22:09 GMT (UK)
hi thanks for that T A Hendrick was my gr gr gr gr ganndfather and Thomas was his son where do i get the info from is it on internet
amanda
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: poppymilly on Sunday 04 February 07 22:16 GMT (UK)
hi found book in internet do you know if you can get from libary
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 04 February 07 22:30 GMT (UK)
Check your local library and if they don't have a copy ask to get it on interlibrary loan.
(There are no more details in the book).
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: poppymilly on Tuesday 27 February 07 21:51 GMT (UK)
hi got the book clockmakers and watchmakers of the world found found my gr gr gr gr grandfather but did not give any more info that i already new have the book for another week if anybody wants a lookup
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday 27 February 07 23:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Pettsy

"Watch & Clockmakers of the British Isles  Birmingham" ISBN1 871252 008
(Heading on inside cover "Watch, Clock & Dialmakers of Birmingham [1547-1900]")

mentions Isaac Turner clock and watchmaker as follows:-
12 Temple St. 1841-4
10, Upper Temple St. 1845-8
4 Ann St. 1849-62
115 Brearley St. 1863-4

there is also a George Turner clockmaker:-
25 Horse Fair 1882-6
49 Vere St. 1882-8 (sic)
Alma St. 1886-8

Perhaps the curator of Clocks and Watches at The Thinktank Museum Birmingham can advise you on where to find any surviving records.

http://www.birminghamstories.co.uk/collection.php?cat=7&set=0

HTH

Nemo
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: pettsy on Wednesday 28 February 07 00:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Nemo,

Thank you so much for the infomation.
I have some new address's there to look into.

I will contact the museum, fingers crossed.

Pettsy
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: cheshiremog on Monday 26 March 07 00:07 BST (UK)
I have two watchmakers in my family
Would anyone be kind enough to look them up in the directory ?


Joseph Heapy of Quarnford,Staffs - Watchmaker around 1837
Benjamin Trist of Brixham Devon - Watchmaker around 1844
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 26 March 07 00:16 BST (UK)
Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World by Brian Loomes.
volume 1-
-John Heapy Stockport an.[before] 1773. Watch
-Joseph Trist Exeter d.ca.1832 C.[clockmaker]
volume 2-
-James Trist Torquay 1850.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: cheshiremog on Monday 26 March 07 01:10 BST (UK)
Thanks for that - not the ones I expected but there is probably a connection somewhere.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: munchies on Sunday 15 April 07 19:09 BST (UK)
Hi there I would appreciate a look up of my great great grandfather Charles Heeley who is listed at various times as either a watchmaker or watch case finisher.

1841 he was apprentice to James Parker and John Court/Couts? in Clerkenwell Middlesex

1846 he must have been in Liverpool as his son was born there

1851 living in Clerkenwell Middlesex

1861-1891 in Liverpool Lancs

Any info on the above names would be great

Thanks
Donna
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 15 April 07 19:49 BST (UK)
Volume 1- Benjamin Heeley, Deptford, bef.1747, watch & Joseph Heeley, Deptford, 1747, watch

Volume 2- T. Heeley, Wilmslow, 1857

Nothing on other names.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: Graham Whitehead on Saturday 19 May 07 21:50 BST (UK)
I have watchmakers in my ATKINS family of Coventry.Three of the sons of Edward and Mary Atkins were born in Clerkenwell, London, Wm, Henry, and George (aged 25, 20 and 15 in 1851 Coventry Census.  I am convinced there were strong links between the Coventry and Clerkenwell watch trade, but would like to know if anyone has more definate proof of this.  Edward Atkins was apprenticed in Coventry 1807 to Wm Hill watchmaker.  Please let me know of any clues that would help further research.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: regross on Saturday 23 June 07 09:44 BST (UK)
I have discovered that ther is a watchmaker in my tree.

His name was Reuben Benjamin and in 1841 that is teh occuaption he gave in the census.

He does not appear in the 1851 census although his wwife is still listed as married and by the 1861 census she is a widow.

I have been unable to find out anything further about this man. At one time he may have been in Canada as his eldest daughter Rachel was born there in 1836. (Confirmed on all census entries until her death.)

A Reuben Benjamin was transported as a felon to Australia in 1833  completed his sentence by 1840 and died in Golbourn NSW in 1856. No occupation available at present.

What makes it realy tantalising to assume they are the ame man is that his next child after Rachel was not born until 1842!!! His death also fits with the  wife's census  entries for the Reuben Benjamin I am researching.

Any help in finding inforamtion about the watch maker would be appreciated.

Robyn in Wodonga Australia.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 23 June 07 10:47 BST (UK)
Not listed in volume 1 or vol. 2 of Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: regross on Saturday 23 June 07 23:46 BST (UK)
Thankyou for that.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: PabloC on Monday 06 August 07 20:24 BST (UK)
Hi,

Would anyone be kind enough to look up the following Liverpool Watch Makers: Enoch Fowler (My G,G,G Grandfather), his brother Henry and his sons Joseph and James. They were watch Makers fom what I can tell from 1841ish onwards.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: Help finding Watch Makers
Post by: samashby on Saturday 05 January 08 05:08 GMT (UK)
I have just found this site and have several watch makers in my family. If somebody could look them up for me it would be appreciated.

John Langford b.1792- watch maker in Clerkenwell, London, addresses are Masons Place 1841 census, and Vincent Terrace in 1851.

His sons all went on to become watch makers in Clerkenwell and in Golden Lane, Cripplegate.
Thomas Langford b. 1821
James b. 1826
Henry b. 1834

thanks
sam

Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 05 January 08 09:52 GMT (UK)
Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World
vol.1- Langford Gowen London a.1633 CC.1652-63
         Langford Ellis London a.1663, CC.1672
         Langford Benjamin London a.1715
         Langford George London 1749 Watch
         Langford George, son London a.1748
         Langford William London a.1761, CC1770 from Ludlow
         Langford John London an.1771 Watch
         Langford Thomas London CC.1781
         Langford William Bristl 1825-30
(a.=apprentice/apprenticed, CC with date=free of Clockmakers Company)

vol.2- Langford Edwin Bristol 1879
         Langford Joseph London 1881
         Langford Thomas London 1869-81
         Langford William (+ sons) Bristol 1825-70 (-79)
         Langford William London 1875
Title: Re: Help finding Watch Makers
Post by: Graham Whitehead on Saturday 05 January 08 14:02 GMT (UK)
I have just found this site and have several watch makers in my family. If somebody could look them up for me it would be appreciated.

Please are there any ATKINS watchmakers in Clerkenwell area of London in 1800-1900 period?  Any infor much appreciated.
Graham
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 05 January 08 14:26 GMT (UK)
Watchmakers & Clockmakers of the World, vol. 2- ATKINS:
Franics London 1811 Watch
George London 1828
George & Son London 1839-57
Henry London 1828
Michael (Thomas) London 1828 (-32)
S. London 1811 watch case maker
William & Co. London 1832-51 (57-63)
Title: Re: Watch Maker - Atkins in London
Post by: Graham Whitehead on Saturday 05 January 08 14:52 GMT (UK)
Many thanks indeed. Perhaps Wm Atkins and Co. is the firm that had links to the Coventry watch trade.  I must look into this because my Coventry Atkins were born in Clerkenwell and baptised in Coventry in 1830 period.
Graham
Title: Re: Watch Makers in Clerkenwell
Post by: samashby on Monday 07 January 08 23:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the information about my Langford relatives.

Also for 'munchie' who is interested in the Healy family in Clerkenwell.  In looking for 'my lot' I found a marriage between John Langford b.1778 and Susan Healy on 24 October 1803 at St John's in Hackney (not far from Clerkenwell). So it may be worth checking different spellings.  It may be a conincidence but probably as watch makers they may have known each other.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aspin on Wednesday 30 January 08 22:38 GMT (UK)
I have been searching in google for Watchmakers in Worcester

Is it possible to find out who Thomas Gregory Davidson ( Watchmaker ) worked for

I have found him in1881 census living with The Turner family
 Thomas is a boarder aged 50 born Spittal Northumberland

In the family of Turners 2 are watchmakers assistant's and one a watchmakers apprentice

The address is 16 New Street Worcester St Martin Worcester

Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aspin on Wednesday 30 January 08 22:39 GMT (UK)
oooooooooooooooooooops forgot to add my name

Elizabeth
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: copperbeech5 on Thursday 14 February 08 22:40 GMT (UK)
There is also the BHI British Horological institute near Newark, Notts,
Might be worth a try?

Copperbeech5
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: aspin on Friday 15 February 08 12:05 GMT (UK)
Thank you ,

He must have been a man who moved around as I managed by chance to find him in Glasgow where he got married 1860's later in Devan

Elizabeth
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: Josee on Friday 15 February 08 13:37 GMT (UK)

There is a wathmakers museum at Prescot Lancs
prescot.museum@knowsley.gov.uk.  They did a lookup for me a couple of years ago. However I can't remember if they covered more than just Lancashire, but probably worth an email.  :D jo

Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: V70PDB on Saturday 23 February 08 21:31 GMT (UK)
Hello all. I'm new on these pages. I am looking for watchmakers in Clerkenwell called Naylor. I have one in my Family. Born Clerkenwell 1820. I have nothing before him. I have no address for him either. He moved to Coventry.

Liverpool, Clerkenwell and Coventry were the three main watchmaking centres. I believe his family were from Liverpool as the name Naylor is grouped around there, moreover one of his daughters was born there. You can find out about this Naylor and the watchmakers of Coventry here...

http://www.thecoventrypages.net/section.asp?catid=87&docid=76

Hope to hear from somebody as I have hit a brickwall.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: Funky Phantom on Tuesday 30 December 08 10:09 GMT (UK)
Hi! I am interested in finding out more about Langford THURBIN who I believe was a clockmaker (?). I see in the thread that there are a lot of LANGFORD's who are clockmakers and wondered if he got his first name and his access to this profession through a connection to this family. Any leads about this person would be most welcome :)
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: Graham Whitehead on Thursday 15 January 09 22:21 GMT (UK)
Hello all. I'm new on these pages. I am looking for watchmakers in Clerkenwell called Naylor. I have one in my Family. Born Clerkenwell 1820. I have nothing before him. I have no address for him either. He moved to Coventry.

Liverpool, Clerkenwell and Coventry were the three main watchmaking centres. I believe his family were from Liverpool as the name Naylor is grouped around there, moreover one of his daughters was born there. You can find out about this Naylor and the watchmakers of Coventry here...

http://www.thecoventrypages.net/section.asp?catid=87&docid=76

Hope to hear from somebody as I have hit a brickwall.


I too have watchmakers from Clerkenwell in the 1820 period named ATKINS.  They seem to havebeen in Coventry at least 100 years before but three children who were born in Clerkenwell were baptised at St John, Coventry.  I am interested in this link between Clerkenwell and Coventry and wonder whether it had to do with apprenticeship.   If you note my Atkins especially Edward Atkins in your research please let me know.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: Reg Volk on Wednesday 03 November 10 16:52 GMT (UK)
Looking for ANY info on Samuel Rawlins, watchmaker, England/Ireland.  circa 1800-1900

Glad for any lookups in books mentioned.

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Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: Joy Dean on Thursday 02 December 10 14:01 GMT (UK)
I have just found a baptism for a Robert Brooks -
Robert of Robert Brooks Clock maker and Sarah born 1 April baptised 18 (?) April St Luke Old Street, Islington.

Would there be any way of finding out more about Robert Brooks the Clock maker?
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: planthunter on Thursday 28 July 16 21:48 BST (UK)
Special reference for Graham Whitehead
My great great grandfather, John Atkins, was a watchmaker in Coventry Spon Street. I have no references, just the say-so of my father, ex-city librarian of Coventry. I have a Pocket Watch handed down through the family, which is hallmarked  T R A - but again, can give no further detail.

Jon Atkins
Title: Re: Watch Maker
Post by: Oneday on Tuesday 30 May 17 10:32 BST (UK)
I posted a post in the Waterford Ireland area but will now add it here.

I'm looking for any information about a watch/clockmaker/jeweller.

The name is Patrick Hendrick/Hanrick.  He was born somewhere between 1800 & 1850's approx as he was married in 1864 the first time where it listed watch/clockmaker as his profession.

His father was John Hanrick & I have managed to find a John Hendrick/Hanrick who was a clockmaker in the uk.  I'm not sure if they are related or is just a coincidence.

Any information about either of these people would be great.

I've also read an old post by poppymilly who has a Hendrick that is a clockmaker - a possible potential relative if I could find a connection.