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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: Kev Searching on Wednesday 31 January 07 17:51 GMT (UK)
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Hi wonder if any one can help decipher this dreadful piece of handwriting. The first name is Jane Irving but whats her maiden name?
Cheers
Kev
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Hi Kev,
Could it be Mycroft or something similar?
Pels :)
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Or Myers with a very fancy final 's'?
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I agree with lesleyhannah - 'Myers'.
Lyn S
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Hi Kev
It does look like Mycroft or Myers - do you have any dates, etc. It could then be checked against any other BMD certs that contain a reference to her. I've managed to confirm names this way a number of times.
Gadget
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I'd forget Mycroft - the supposed 'f' is in fact the 'g' of Irving. My vote goes to Myers.
Gareth
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Must admit defeat, after looking at everyone else's replies, it definitely is Myers - sorry!
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Would agree with the the experts ... Myers ... with a fancified "s"
yn9man
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Hi folks
Thanks for the great response. I think I'll go with the flow and try Myers.
In response to Gadget, I don't have very much info to go on. The image was taken from her daughters (Penelope) death cert in 1866. I suspect Penelope was born about 1796 Hoddam (found this on the 1851 census) and her parents were John Irving and Jane Myers but I have been unable to find any records relating to the BDM of any members of the family except Penelopes death.
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Kev
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Hi Kev
Do you have any details of any of Penelope's siblings from the OPRs/IGI?
I've looked at Hoddam but can't find Penelope's baptism there although there are quite a few Irvings with a father John (at least one with a mother Mary Reed).
Remember that Jane could also be down as Janet, Jean or Jessie in the records.
Regards
Gadget
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Hi Gadget
Unfortunately I have found nothing about Penelope apart from her daughter was called Isabella Bell whose parents on her death cert are Robert Bell Farmer and Penelope Irving. This seems a bit strange as on Penelopes death cert she is listed as single and again on the 1841 1851 census. However Penelope is living with a 15 year old William Lowther in 1841 who may be a nephew or some kind of relation as Her daughter (Isabella) had a son William middle name Lowther. Again I have been unable to find Isabellas birth record who was born Kirkpatrick-Flemming 1828ish.
Confusing eh?
Kev
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On the 1851 Scotland, there are the following Irvings born Hoddam, 1800 +/- 10 years:
Agnes, bc. 1791 - husband George
Your Penelope
Mary, b.c. 1809
Mary, b.c. 1811
William, b.c. 1811
It might be worth having a look at them and seeing if any of them could be related. Then follow them up for death certs.
Gadget
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Thanks Gadget I'll have a look into them.
Cheers
Kev
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Just to confuse myself further I think it could be Byers. I noticed this entry on the same page. Bronchitis.
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Could one of these possibly be her:
4 Jan 1764, Janet Byers, d/o James, Hoddom
10 October 17776, Jannet Byers, d/o James, Kirkpatrick Fleming
Gadget