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Title: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Monday 29 January 07 18:46 GMT (UK)
Hi there, I have temporary possession of the above. Willing to look up your names for you. By the way, it seems to cover parts of Kilburn, West Hampstead and St Johns Wood too.

Linda
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 29 January 07 19:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Linda,

Could you have a look for any Howards?  There is a possibility that a branch were in the area at that time.

Many thanks,

Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Monday 29 January 07 19:24 GMT (UK)
Charles (Alton House) 3 Netherhall Terr
Cosmo Gordon (The Grove) 1 Merton Grove
Daniel 60 Belsize Pk
Geo, (Oaklands Cricklewood
John C. 15 Provost Rd
John Henry 10 Gardnor Rd
Mrs 6 Willoughby Rd
William 38 Belsize Prk Gdns
William 37 Iverson Rd
William (Bloomfield Cottage) 20 The Village
William Frederick (Arundel House) 107 Priory Road
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 29 January 07 19:29 GMT (UK)
Phew!  That was quick, thanks.  There's a few there that look possibles.


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Monday 29 January 07 19:40 GMT (UK)
Well, Nanny Jan, there's nothin' on the tv, see!  ::)
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: corbie on Tuesday 30 January 07 13:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Linda,
 How good of you to offer to do this.
 I'm looking for any HYATT names. Iknow they were in that area in the early 1900s. Also Whiffin and Bradbee.
   I know, I'm being greedy now!!!
           Thankyou
                 Corbie
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Tuesday 30 January 07 14:42 GMT (UK)
Miss Bradbee 32 Well Walk (Hampstead)
Frederick Wiffen 42 Dartmouth Park Road (Highgate)

That's all!

Linda
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: corbie on Tuesday 30 January 07 14:52 GMT (UK)
Great Linda!
  Thankyou so much
        Corbie
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 30 January 07 15:13 GMT (UK)
Linda, what a kind offer.  Is there any sign of

Ernest Barber Elliott
Alfred Harraden Elliott
Frederick Vaughan Elliott
William Timbrell Elliott
William Wallworth Elliott
any other Elliott with the above middle names or middle name Temple?


Many thanks in advance

Anna
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Tuesday 30 January 07 15:54 GMT (UK)
Ernest B. Elliott 26 Birchington Road (this is Kilburn)
Alfred Harraden Elliott Warwick House, 12 Downshire Hill, Hampstead. He must have been well off! Downshire Hill is the most beautiful street of large Georgian houses worth a mint!
Frederick  Elliot  43 Belsize Rd
William Timbrell Elliott 113 Adelaide Road (Swiss Cottage)
William W Elliott 34 Birchington Road

The picture is Downshire Hill in 1842

Linda
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 30 January 07 16:08 GMT (UK)
Many thanks indeed, Linda!  Lovely picture of Downshire Hill too - we lived in Keats Grove when I was a child so it's all nice and local.

Alfred was well off in the 1880s, but was bankrupt by 1892 after his business failed.  Poor chap.

Many thanks again

Anna 
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: loo on Tuesday 30 January 07 22:40 GMT (UK)
Thank you!

I would be grateful for anything on:

James WILLIS, whitesmith or ironmonger or?, living at 1 Gayton Rd or 83-84 High St. or somewhere else?
 
Wife – Sophia WILLIS

Children –Emma Harriett, b. 1863 
               Frederick J., b.1866   
               Ada Elizabeth, b.1871-2               
               Ernest Edward, b.1880-1

I am especially interested in whatever happened to Frederick, if he is found in the vicinity.  I think the other children were all still at home.

Thanks again.
loo




Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Wednesday 31 January 07 08:57 GMT (UK)
James WILLIS,   1 Gayton Rd and 83-84 High St.

Nothing more than that.

But, I did find this advert on the front page of the Hampstead & Highgate Express for Saturday January 6th 1900

Linda
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: rihuggett on Wednesday 31 January 07 10:18 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Could you please see if there are any of the following Morley family members in the directory?  Albert and Henrietta's children in subsequent censuses are born 'Highgate' and in 1891 Albert's residence was 62 Spencer Rd, Kentish Town.

Albert James Morley, bc 1862
Henrietta Morley, b 1862
Albert Edward Morley, son, bc 1882
Henrietta Morley, daughter, bc 1884
(possibly Charlotte Emma Morley, daughter, bc 1888)
Simeon Morley, son bc 1889

With this information, I'll have a better idea of the parish church the children were baptised in.

Thanks very much, Richard
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Wednesday 31 January 07 12:41 GMT (UK)
No Morleys, I'm afraid. The directory shows that 62 Spencer Rd was occupied by one Samuel Whitmore at that time. I found Spencer Rd on the A-Z, but it's now called Spencer Rise.

This is on Free BMD. Why not send for it, with the proviso that the parents are Albert and Henrietta. That way you would get part of your money refunded if was wrong. Bet that's the right one one, though  ;D

Morley    Henrietta Charlotte E         Pancras    1b   166 March Q 1884

What religious denomination were they? There's a list of churches and chapels etc in the directory, so if you let me know, I'll tell you what there was at that time in the neighbourhood.
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 31 January 07 14:04 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Can I have a second request? Does the directory list any synagogues or Jewish organisations?

Many thanks,

Nanny Jan 
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Wednesday 31 January 07 14:06 GMT (UK)
No, sorry - everything but! That is, no jewish organisations, not no you can't have a second request !  ;D

Linda
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 31 January 07 14:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks; back to square one......again!

Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: loo on Thursday 01 February 07 00:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much for the info on J. WILLIS.  The newspaper ad is great to have!  He is a whitesmith and/or ironmonger on censuses, so I guess plumbing was closely related!
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: rihuggett on Thursday 01 February 07 17:53 GMT (UK)
Hi, thanks for looking.  They were C of E.  At least they married at St Peter's, Regent's Square, St Pancras 19/11/1882, a C of E parish (address given for both was Cromer St, her parents' address and far south of Highgate / Hampstead) and both sets of parents likewise C of E.

In 1891 the ecclesiastical parish of their Spencer Rd address was Holy Trinity, in 1901 it was St John's (Gresbach Rd, Upper Holloway - so probably outside the directory's area, too late anyway).  Henrietta, the mother died (March qtr 1891, before the census when the daughter Henrietta is living with her maternal grandmother Charlotte Keatley) and Albert remarried shortly after.

I'll make it down to the LMA sometime in February and go through the likely parishes.  My tree has '000s of people on.  This little lot are first cousins of one of my ancestral lines, so a little too remote to justify a cert.

Any help with neighbouring parishes grately appreciated.  Was there a Morley, Albert in the directory you could search on by name?

Thanks, Richard.
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: flocklet on Friday 02 February 07 01:56 GMT (UK)
Thank you for this kind offer. Hoping you could look for any HOLTON people please?
Kind Regards,
Stella  ;D
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: loo on Friday 02 February 07 08:03 GMT (UK)
I was just wondering, with regards to James WILLIS, did the Directory make any distinction between the nature of his two addresses?  Was one strictly residential and the other strictly business?  Or perhaps he had moved, and they had not deleted the earlier one.
Ta.
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Saturday 10 February 07 07:41 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

I think you'll find that Gayton Road was residential and High Street was business. He was in "private persons" at Gayton, and High Street in "tradesmen".

There's only one shop in Gayton Road, right at the beginning (which happens to be my favourite charity shop!). The rest are smallish, but no doubt hideously expensive, residential properties.

I'll try to remember to have a look at the High Street address next time I'm up in Hampstead.

Linda
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: loo on Saturday 10 February 07 19:24 GMT (UK)
Then this may make him the first of my rellies to graduate to having both a business address and a home address!  Most of them seemed to have lived at work or worked at home, depending on your interpretation!
Thanks for the clarification.
I wondered about the High St. address too.  My internet research shows that 83-84 High St. is a restaurant, but it looks like it's a new building, although with the same numbering system:
http://www.zenw3.com/Contact%20Us.htm
However, the restaurant reviews have been negative, so it may not be there long! - http://www.myhampstead.co.uk/hampstead/restaurants-reviews-zenw3.htm

I suppose that since they lived at #1 Gayton, it was likely on a corner, and could even now be your charity shop, depending on which corner it was.  Would love a photo, if anyone reading this is ever in the area!

Ta.
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Sunday 11 February 07 01:30 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

I'm really surprised to know that 83-84 is ZenW3. For some reason, I had assumed it was further up the High Street. ZenW3 is just about opposite the end of Gayton Road, so it wasn't far from home to work for your man!

ZenW3 is a newish building. Hampstead suffered quite a lot of bombing in WW11, so there are some very jarring gaps in the beautiful old architecture. ZenW3 has been there for quite a few years now. Never been there myself, but I know people who rave about it.

Anyway, I'm always up and down from Hampstead, so I'll try to remember to look and take some photos for you. The first properties in Gayton Road (coming from the High Street) are the Oxfam shop on the right, and Vine Cottage on the left (which has suffered rather a sad fate) but I'll check that out and let you know.

Linda
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: loo on Sunday 11 February 07 06:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks for additional bits - fascinating!
If you are able to investigate Gayton Rd a bit more when you are in Hampstead some time, that would be wonderful!

ta.
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: Peterej on Monday 12 February 07 20:32 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the offer.
I don't know my way around the area so it is a bit of a stab in the dark but are there any Coppin(s)

Peter
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Monday 12 February 07 22:29 GMT (UK)
No Coppins of any sort.
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Monday 12 February 07 22:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you for this kind offer. Hoping you could look for any HOLTON people please?
Kind Regards,
Stella  ;D

No Holtons.
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: Peterej on Monday 12 February 07 22:36 GMT (UK)
Thanks for trying

Peter
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: flocklet on Tuesday 13 February 07 03:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks muchly for trying for my Holton folk  :)
Much appreciated.
Stella
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: polly on Tuesday 13 February 07 22:55 GMT (UK)
Hi I would appreciate you looking up the name of Murray, possibly St. John's Wood.
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: ridban on Friday 16 February 07 10:51 GMT (UK)
Andrew Murray 34 Gayton Rd
Oswald Murray 20 Parliament Hill Rd
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: polly on Tuesday 20 February 07 17:53 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the look-up
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: Suecro on Sunday 11 March 07 23:32 GMT (UK)
I am looking for
Crouch
Cross
Parsons
Hope I'm not being to greedy

Sue
Title: Re: Hampstead & HighGate Directory 1885-6 short term Offer
Post by: JillStatton on Saturday 12 April 08 01:20 BST (UK)
Is your very kind offer still current?  If so I would very much like details of any WEBBs although, because it is a common name, there may be too many to extract.  Am particularly interested in George and Jane WEBB.

With thanks, in anticipation - Jill Statton, Adelaide, South Australia.