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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Buteshire => Topic started by: atherleigh on Monday 29 January 07 06:52 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
My ancestor, Alexander Campbell, died at a place called Cawder, Craigmore,Rothesay around 1900. I've located Craigmore, near Rothesay, but I'm at a loss to work out where Cawder is! Was it the name of a village, a farm or a house?
Any ideas would be greatly welcomed!
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Hi
Just wondered where you got the info from? Do you have a copy of the DC? If all 3 names are listed like you've shown then it appears it would have to be the name of a farm or dwelling place. I ask as I had a look for the certificate on SP and there is none from 1895 to 1905 in Rothesay showing the address you've given. My gazetteer lists Cawder House but that is in Lanarkshire. The 1881 census disks do not have any listing that connects Cawder and variants to Bute.
Best wishes
Jean
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If your ancestor was Alexander Campbell born in Largs, Ayrshire (steam boat owner) he is listed in the 1881 census as living at Auchaross, Craigmore which possibly indicates that Cawdor like Auchaross is the name of the House.
I've also conferred with my wife who is from there and she states that all of the houses have names rather than any numbering system although she hadn't heard of cawdor before.
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Thanksjean and Falkrynn,
Yes it has me puzzled also. Alexander Campbell , lithographer of the firm Campbell and Tudhope in Glasgow , was born in Cadder and lived in Lanarkshire all his life at a place called Annfield near Bishopbriggs and yet in the 1901 census he and his wife Maggie were boarders at 28 Battery Place, Rothesay. He was 67 in the 1901 census. Its definitely him.
Anyway, I got his place of death and his age(70) from a little undated newspaper cutting that my great grandmother kept. I've searched Scotland'sPeople,printed out several Alexander Campbells aged 70 between 1902-1908 and so far its cost me a small fortune and I still haven't found 'my' Alexander. His mother's maiden name was McKean and his wife was Maggie Murdoch. The IGI hasn't been any help either.
If anyone has any suggestions I'd be so grateful!
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The reference to Bishopbriggs ..... originally a village north of Glasgow Bishopbriggs is actually in Dunbartonshire and is not near the House previously listed as Annfield (see other thread)
http://gdl.cdlr.strath.ac.uk/smihou/smihou014.htm
gives details of the Cadder Estate and Cadder House which is different from the other house and is North of Glasgow near Bishopbriggs- Linking in with the possible house name in Bute this area was also known as Cawder.
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I appreciate everyone's help with this problem!
I suppose the only way I'll find out is to locate my ancestor's death cert... or maybe his wife's. I haven't had much luck there either.
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Craigmore is a place in Bute, I'm guessing Cawder was the name of the house/building.
Try some of these websites and maybe someone local can have a look for you;
www.isle-of-bute.com
www.isle-of-bute.org.uk
www.butesonsanddaughters.co.uk
Look at Multi-Map and you'll find Craigmore Road.
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Hi Hanan
This looks a possible for wife Maggie's death:
1925 CAMPBELL MARGARET MURDOCH F 88 ROTHESAY /BUTE 558/00 0046
Monica :)
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Hi Hanan and MonicaLesl,
Thanks for your help! Monica, thank you for the death info for Maggie Murdoch Campbell - I've been looking 30 years too early as I thought she'd died around 1903! No wonder I couldn't find her!
Hanan, thanks for the links. I'll look them up and maybe can trace where Cawdor is.
Regards,
Atherleigh(Cheryl)
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Sorry Cheryl :-[ I addressed you as Hanan, the problem with late night posts :P
Monica
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...and to further make up for my slip up.......this is Alexander's death:
1907 CAMPBELL ALEXANDER 73 CADDER (WESTERN) /LANARK 626/A1 0018
The clues were all there :) Given the inaccuracies that creep in on the reporting of events, why should newspapers be any different ;D There is a reference to the Register of Corrected Entries for his death, maybe that will provide some more info.
Monica
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Thats OK ,Monica.
I really appreciate your help! I've never heard of the 'register of corrected entries". I've so much to learn! Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
Cheryl
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I wondered if it could be the Cawdor of Shakespeare' s Macbeth ( Thane of Cawdor) so I looked it up and that Cawdor is about 10 miles east of Inverness.
Probably no connection, but interesting I thought ;D
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Cawdor is near to Inverness but the Cawder that you are looking for was an estate at Bisopbriggs now I think developed
it was part of Keir & Cawder estates owned by the Stirling
family at one time one of the largest land owners in Scotland
The company still trades as Keir & Cawder estates ltd.
although they no longer own any land at Bishopbriggs.
Renard
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Hi Atherleigh,
For some background knowledge, you'll find several topics about the RCE under Deaths in Scotland in the
RootsChat Reference Library (http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/index.php) => Lexicon (click here) (http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/reflib-lexicon.php?letter=D)
Pity there's no Macbeth connection :(
regards,
Bob
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Thanksjean and Falkrynn,
Yes it has me puzzled also. Alexander Campbell , lithographer of the firm Campbell and Tudhope in Glasgow , was born in Cadder and lived in Lanarkshire all his life at a place called Annfield near Bishopbriggs and yet in the 1901 census he and his wife Maggie were boarders at 28 Battery Place, Rothesay. He was 67 in the 1901 census. Its definitely him.
Anyway, I got his place of death and his age(70) from a little undated newspaper cutting that my great grandmother kept. I've searched Scotland'sPeople,printed out several Alexander Campbells aged 70 between 1902-1908 and so far its cost me a small fortune and I still haven't found 'my' Alexander. His mother's maiden name was McKean and his wife was Maggie Murdoch. The IGI hasn't been any help either.
If anyone has any suggestions I'd be so grateful!
Items of Campbell & Tudhope still exist. go to: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertpool/sets/72157623175622707/detail/
regards,
Robert