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Title: Water/mould damage
Post by: SevenThree on Saturday 20 January 07 23:33 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

I have a photocopy of a water/mould damaged photo and would like to ask if it would be suitable for restoring.  I would be very grateful as it's the only one I have of my grandparents and would like a decent copy to print and frame.  Any improvement would be a bonus.

Thanks in advance,

7/3
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: trellisick on Sunday 21 January 07 01:08 GMT (UK)
hi 7-3,
             here is a starter for you, this is such a lovely picture i am sure you are going to get a lot more interested in it, kali,(http://) i printed one and two pop up, whoops!
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: mudge on Sunday 21 January 07 01:29 GMT (UK)
A basic clean up
Mudge
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: mudge on Sunday 21 January 07 01:31 GMT (UK)
A resized version
Mudge
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: mudge on Sunday 21 January 07 01:32 GMT (UK)
Oops, forgot image!  :-X :-X :-X :-X
Mudge
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: tabsearch on Sunday 21 January 07 02:39 GMT (UK)
Hi 7/3

Here is quick modified restore for you.

David
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: miagre1 on Sunday 21 January 07 03:23 GMT (UK)
Hello SevenThree,
I presume, perhaps erroneously, the original image is on linen or a linen paper?

I could not make better of what your Grandmother had in her right hand.

Best regards George
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: SevenThree on Sunday 21 January 07 11:38 GMT (UK)
Kali, Mudge David and George,

Thank you all so much for the brilliant results, I've seen other work you've done on this forum and I was so impressed but never dared hope my picture would come out so well. 

I will print them all and impress everybody who sees them.  Thank you all again for your time - I noticed the timings of your postings - real night owls, you guys -
or are you all in Australia ;D!

7/3


Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: SevenThree on Sunday 21 January 07 11:45 GMT (UK)

I presume, perhaps erroneously, the original image is on linen or a linen paper?
George, it had never occurred to me that the original would be on anything other than photographic paper - would some sort of linen have been a possibility then?  This photocopy has been in my mother's possession for about 15 years.  One of her (many) older sisters has the original in Cork I believe.  I will investigate that further.

 7/3
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: SevenThree on Sunday 21 January 07 12:36 GMT (UK)
I could not make better of what your Grandmother had in her right hand.

Not to worry, probably some flowers - but what grabbed my attention more is what was missing from her left hand! They were definitely married in 1911 in Newbridge, Co Kildare- she was 20 and he was 28.  This means that the photo pre-dates what I'd originally been told about it's approximate age.  We assumed that it was taken after their marriage but there is clearly no wedding ring on her hand.  Perhaps it was a photo for their engagement!

Further dating the photo would be the fact that my mother, (last child born in 1937) remembers her father being in the Garda Siochana. Prior to 1922 Ireland was still under British rule and the police force then was known as the Royal Irish Constabulary.  The cap badge on his hat is definitely harp shaped, therefore whatever service he is in at the time (RIC or one of the Irish military regiments) it is definitely not the Garda which has a totally different shaped cap badge.

7/3
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: miagre1 on Sunday 21 January 07 15:59 GMT (UK)
Hi 7/3,

Re. my question of backing, I noticed in the damaged section, as though the print had been folded and the emulsion layer torn, that the hatched effect visible over all the photo is still visible. I assumed that the backing itself was composed of some sort of material rather than paper. Further, the hatched effect is not regular, rather like a cloth type material. I have never seen an old photograph printed on cloth material as a darkroom process. I do not know either if parchment could be used for such process, nor if parchment has such fibers.

Best regards George

Enlarged section of your original: -
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: SevenThree on Sunday 21 January 07 21:53 GMT (UK)
Hi George,

Thanks for that full explanation of your thoughts, I'll see what I can find out about the original and let you know. 

Best wishes

7/3
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: saddles on Monday 22 January 07 04:29 GMT (UK)
Just experimenting to see how the photo would work out !



Carolyn  :)
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: SevenThree on Monday 22 January 07 17:39 GMT (UK)

Oh wow Carolyn - you experiment as much as you like, that is fantastic! I could never have imagined anything like that - even if I'd been given six weeks to think about it!  My mother will be ecstatic!

Thank you most sincerely, 

7/3

Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: saddles on Tuesday 23 January 07 06:33 GMT (UK)
Hi 7/3..............I am glad you liked the experiment, seeing there was no background as such I decided to try something, it worked out rather well i think !.


Carolyn  :)

Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: PeterMc on Tuesday 27 October 09 12:42 GMT (UK)
Definately not an RIC uniform. I suspect this man was in the Irish Volunteers!
Title: Re: Water/mould damage
Post by: SevenThree on Wednesday 28 October 09 00:16 GMT (UK)
Thank you Peter, good to hear from somebody who knows! :)