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Title: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: scruffypup on Saturday 20 January 07 10:30 GMT (UK)
I have done a lot of research of my own family but now I'm starting on my husband's family and have found Harrogate is a very hard place to find(regarding BMD).  I know my husband's  grandparents on his paternal side were Thomas and Doris Nelson, and his father was Terence Nelson born in Harrogate in 1934 and died in 1982,  I reckon his grand parents must have been born around 1910 era and they had 9 children that is all I know, so any info would be brilliant.
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: nanny jan on Saturday 20 January 07 11:32 GMT (UK)
I would suggest that you look for the marriage of Thomas and Doris, which will show their ages (not always accurate!) and work back from that.  Was Terence their first child?  If not, try to find the first one and that will give you an idea of when to look for the marriage.

The birth cert of Terence will show Doris's maiden name.

Happy hunting,

Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: scruffypup on Saturday 20 January 07 15:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Nanny Jan

Hubby has informed me that his dad although known as Terry was actually Thomas Terry, I suppose the Thomas part is after his Dad Thomas snr.  I know Terry's older sister by one year was Lena, He would have been born around 1934, most of his siblings have died unfortunately.

Yours Julie
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 20 January 07 16:00 GMT (UK)
Thomas T Nelson
birth
9a 133 Knarsborough Jul qu 1934 mmn Butters
death 5/6/1935 ap birth
Oct qu 1982 Claro v2 p1986


Marriage
Dorothy Butters 1932 Oct qu Knarsborough 9a 213
Thomas A Nelson

Birth
Dorothy Butters sept qu 1913 Knarsborough mmn Lince 9a 184

theres a Thomas A Nelson born in Sheffield Sept 1910 9a 568 but wouldnt like to make a guess at him being the right one
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: scruffypup on Saturday 20 January 07 16:04 GMT (UK)
HI Isobel

Many thanks for your help, it was very kind of you.

Yours Julie
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 20 January 07 16:16 GMT (UK)
Birth
Selina R Nelson  mmn Butters Jan qu 1933 Knarsborough 9a 147
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 20 January 07 16:19 GMT (UK)
Heres a strange one
Robert I Nelson 1935 Ap qu 4a 159 West Ham  mmn Butters
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 20 January 07 16:24 GMT (UK)
Shirley 1936 ap qu 9a 156 Knarsborough mmn Butters

Raymond F Nelson 1940 Jul qu 9a 357 Knarsborough mmn Butters

now you can eliminate Robert I as theres also a Sonia J born in Ilford mmn Butters same qu as Raymond F
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: scruffypup on Saturday 20 January 07 17:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Isobel

I've told hubby what you've found.  One of his Dad's brothers was actually called Derek Butters, perhaps born before they married.  I'd never thought about Lena being short for anything but she fits in perfectly with the date and location for Selina. There is a possiblilty of Thomas Snr being married twice, his Dad never talked much about his family or parents unfortunately  There was a sibling Roy Nelson and probably a William Nelson.

Yours Julie
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 20 January 07 18:46 GMT (UK)
I stopped looking when I got to 1940 as I didnt know how many more children there were in the family
Isobel
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: scruffypup on Saturday 20 January 07 20:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Isobel

With the leads you've given me I've already been able to find Dorothy Butters parents Alfred Butters and Rose Ann Lince born March 1890 and married in Sept Qtr 1913, so that's a brilliant start. Thomas A Nelson is a bit elusive but I'll find him.

Many thanks
Yours Julie
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: Butters77 on Thursday 24 July 14 16:15 BST (UK)
Hi My name is Richard Butters and my dad was Maurice Derek Butters (Harrogate).  Dorothy was my Aunt 'Dot'.  Dad had brothers (my uncles) William, Roy, Terry, Arthur, Raymond

Roy and William are still alive but unfortunately my dad and Terry, Arthur, Raymond have passed away

You are right grandma had a baby 'out of wedlock', my dad hence the name Butters but subsequently married a Nelson and the remaining sons were born as Nelson's.  I used to visit Grandma and Grandad every Sunday.  They lived on Strawberry Dale - Harrogate

I have just started to research the family and would very mush like to see what you have
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: scruffypup on Thursday 24 July 14 17:56 BST (UK)
Hi Richard

Welcome to Rootschat, there are some fantastic people on here who will help wherever they can.  I've been researching for 7 years now and without the help of people like John Butters and Raymond Stacey I would never have come so far in finding hubbys ancestors, also your Auntie Lena (Selina), Derek and Terrys sister gave me a lot of information and photos to scan of the Butters family.

I don't know how far you've got with your research but hopefully I can help you as far back as your 10 x Gt Grandfather Richard Parfeye c1560 Fritton Norfolk (Caroline Perfect your 2 x Gt Grandmother married Walter Butters, and that's how the Perfects tie into your family) the earliest Butter I have is William and Rebekah your 6 x Gt Grandparents, and John Nolson/Nelson your 7 x Gt Grandfather. 

I have had to change my family tree several times a new leads come to light and you will find that it is always wise to double check any information, that's why there are a few ancestors in hubby's tree with tbc (to be confirmed).

I showed Pete your post and he said to ask you about your Dad and his old vauxhalls :)

I'll send you a PM after I post this message

Julie
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: dcm3283 on Wednesday 13 April 22 14:24 BST (UK)
Hi.
Just stumbled across this post online, my Grandmother was Selina (Lena) Dilasser (née Nelson).

She recently passed away but I'm keen to learn more about the family?

Cheers

David
Title: Re: Thomas Nelson c1910 Harrogate
Post by: scruffypup on Sunday 19 June 22 10:42 BST (UK)
Hi David

Please excuse my very late reply, the email from rootschat was lost in a pile of emails I received around that time. I was really sad to hear about Auntie Lena, she was always so happy and I loved seeing her out and about on her bike going to the shops bargain hunting, she was a lovely lady and I once had the pleasure of spending an afternoon with her  talking about the Nelson family and scanning her old family photos to save for Terrys side of the family, I've found a lot more info on the Nelson's since my original post, I'll send you a message, don't like putting too much on public domain.

Regards
Julie