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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Jenzzzz11 on Monday 15 January 07 16:56 GMT (UK)
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Hi my name is Jennifer Hawkswell and I've come to a stop in searching for my ancestors on my Dads side. My Great great Grandfather was called John Hauxwell b.1863 in Moreton on Swale, Leyburn, Yorkshire. He married Catherine Spence (b.1862 West Witton, Leyburn, Yorkshire) in 1883. The problem is that I can't find John Hauxwell on any Census before 1881 and I really want to trace his parents as the Hauxwell/Hawkswell side is the main link down to me! I've tried searching different spellings, changing years and allsorts but found nothing! I have managed to trace a lot of the Spence side (his wifes side) but need some more info on John. If anyone has ANY information or knows how I could find more out please could you let me know! Thanks, Jeni.
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Hi Jeni,
Where was he in 1881 then? Have you got his birth cert to find parents' names?
Glad to see someone else researching Spences (although yours aren't mine!)
Barbara
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Think this could be him in 1871? indexed under Hankswell actually Hawkswell ::)
RG10/4865 fol.7 p.7 Little Crakehall
James Hawkswell head mar 53 Green Grocer Crakehall, Bedale
Dorothy " wife " 53 Helperby, Yorks
Mary " dau unm 19 Servant Crakehall, Bedale
Harriot " " 14 Scholar " "
Philas " " 9 " " "
John " son 6 " Morton on Swale, Yorkshire
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If right family, here they are in 1861, they do like to change their spellings!!
RG9/3669 fol.44 p.1 Holy Moor, Patrick Brompton, Yorkshire
James Hawxwell Head Mar 42 Hind Bedale
Dorothy " Wife " 42 Brafferton
Thomas " son 13 Scholar Bedale
Eleanor " dau 11 " "
Mary " " 9 " "
Elizabeth " " 7 " "
Harriot " " 4 " "
Margaret " " 2 "
Jullas (?) " " 3 mo Patrick Brompton
Think a hind might be a servant or a farm labourer
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Yorkshire Bedale HO107/2378/106/2 1851
Little Crakehall
James Hawkswill head mar 33 ag lab b.Crakehall
Dorothy wife 32 b.Helperby
Ann daur 7 scholar b.Crakehall
James son 5 do
Thomas son 3 do
Ellen daur 1 do
transribed as Hahswill!
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1841 HO107/1250/4 fol.6 p.5 Little Crake Hall, Crakehall
James Hawkeswell 60 Gardener
Ann " 60
John " 30
James " 20 Butcher
John " 10
Ann " 12
all born in county
There's a marriage on freebmd for James Hawkswell Jun 1841 Easingwold 24/335 with a couple of Dorothys same page, surnames Craven or Dickinson - Easingwold district covers both Brafferton and Helperby where Dorothy was born
Barbara :)
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Hi Guys,
I have managed to find a couple of possibilities for John Hauxwell in earlier census'. But they need some more investigation. The correct spelling of John's name is HAUXWELL. However on Ancestry.co.uk's website he appears on the 1901 census as John Hawlxwell (which I think is someone not understanding the writing on the census!)
In 1891 he appears as John Hauxwell.
In 1881 he appears as John Hawkswell (my name), but the birthplace has moved to Crakehall and not Moreton on Swale.
After hours of searching I think I might have found him on Crakehall's records for 1871 RG10/4866, if finds a John Hankswell aged 6 which would make his birth year 1865, but I'm pretty sure that he was born in 1863. It says that this John was born in Moreton on Swale and gives the parents names of Dorothy and James both born in 1818. And 3 sisters called Harriet b.1857, Mary b.1852 and Philas b. 1862. Now although all this excited me (the 1871 census) I can't be sure that it is him. I'm going to try to order his birth certificate, but I want to be sure which John Hauxwell is right! John's Dad was a Green Grocer and his Mum was a Servant.
Hopefully this might lead to some more information!
Thanks, I'll have a look at some older census' do you all think that this might be the right family?! It seems the closest match and the most logical. Jeni.
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It looks very much like the right family, only ones I could find on the census, Morton on Swale is abt 4 miles from Crakehall, so no problem there, and quite often ages vary from census to census. However the birth cert would sort it all out
Barbara :)