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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: bbriann on Friday 12 January 07 22:50 GMT (UK)
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G'day....... The Wilcock family had a property called NEW SPRINGS at Whittle le Woods, just north of Chorley. We believe it was a working farm at that time, but information about it is very hard to come by.
Location , or any general information about this property or this area would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Brian.
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Hi Brian
I wonder if your family originally came from New Springs - just outside of Wigan by the canal? It could account for the name of the property.
Good luck with your search.
Barbara 8)
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Hello Barbara, thanks for the response.
I have just spent a pretty frustrating hour trying to get some general info about New Spring, Wigan, but without luck.
I think it's hiding !
If you have any further general info that you think may help in this search, I would be grateful. I didn't realise there was such a place. Thanks for the " heads up". Brian.
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Hi Brian
Have a look for Canal Street or Withington Lane or even Harveys Bakery, they are- or were in New Springs. It could come under Aspull these days, I'm not sure. My ex husband came from Canal Street, New Springs, but it's years since I've been there.
As you come out of Wigan, it's on the right hand side going towards Bolton. I'll see if I can find a map for you with it on, it is a rather obscure place and they did do a lot of demolition work in the '80's and '90's.
All the best
Barbara 8)
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Hi Brian
I've found this site for you, hope it helps. On ordinary maps, look for the Leeds/Liverpool Canal as this forms a boundary with New Springs.
www.manchester2002-uk.com/maps/wigan/map.html
Hope I've got that right. Just in case I haven't, try google Wigan+maps and a whole heap come up.
Good luck
Barbara
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I just put "new springs" into old-maps.co.uk and it shows as being near "top lock", whittle-le-woods in 1849 which is a semi-familiar place to me as i live in Leyland a couple of miles down the road. Apparently it's still named the same.
If you dont' find any more information, I might be able to pay a visit and get some photo's next weekend... no promises though.
Regards
Stuart
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Hi Stuart, there's a 'Top Lock' in New Springs Wigan also. Makes it a bit confusing doesn't it!! Top Lock referred to the lock system on the Leeds/Liverpool Canal. The lock itself was at the top of Cale Lane in New Springs.
Barbara 8)
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G'day Barbara and Stuart.........
Firstly, thanks Barbara for you ongoing effort, I am and will be following up on all these leads.
Staurt, thanks mate, This of course was my first information about this place, ( Whittle le Woods), so thanks for that info., and I will be interested in any info about this place.
This is becoming very interesting, and is raising more questions .
Thank you both. Brian.
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Do keep us in the loop Brian. I'd be interested in finding out just where they came from.
Barbara 8)
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I started work in Whittle-le-Woods more than half a lifetime ago.
Whittle Springs was the site of a brewery until the 1930s, when it was taken over by Matthew Brown of Blackburn. Despite a clause in the contract intended to keep the brewery open, it was immediately closed and the well poisoned. However, until Matthew Brown was forcibly acquired by Scottish & Newcastle in 1987, their soft drinks carried a Whittle Springs brand name.
New Springs can be seen on www.old-maps.co.uk.
Search for Chorley (Lancs & Furness). Press the North button 10 times, then see the Enlarged view. New Springs is on the right hand side. The brewery referred to is down Moss Lane by the side of the canal.
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G'day folks.... I apologise for the late response to Barbara and Stuart, I have been following up on this.
Thanks Andrew for that info. this fills a gap, since the Elephant and Castle at Adlington was held by Lawrence Wilcock, and in an old Photo it shows that they traded in " Whittle Springs" beer.
I have seen the " old maps" referred to by Stuart and Andrew, I am very much convinced that we've found the spot. This warrants further research, and so if you have any other info, I would be very pleased to receive it.
I also found the location mentioned by Barbara, but this just didn't gel, we had no other links to that area.
Andrew, these little snippets are priceless.
Barbara, thanks for your input, appreciated.
Stuart, again thanks for your help.
Cheers Brian.
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Hello there! I am from whittle and have only registered with this site because as I googled 'the top lock pub whittle-le-woods' to see if I could find the pub menu your post showed up!!! I'm not 100% sure but I seem to remember being told that the water in whittle springs was thought to be healing water years ago and people with ailments used to travel from all over to bathe in it that maybe why its called 'new springs' I will speak with my mum about it and get back to you with any other info x