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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: jillruss on Wednesday 27 December 06 16:12 GMT (UK)
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Could anyone please tell me which FHS Ripponden would come under?
I've been looking on the various FHS websites. I couldn't find it under Huddersfield and District so thought it might be Halifax, which - just to confuse me even further, which really wasn't necessary as I was already confused!! :-\ - is itself under Calderdale FHS!!
I'm trying to track down some PR publications for Ripponden - if they exist! :-[
Jill
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Calderdale
www.cfhsweb.co.uk
(Guess whose kids attend Ripponden School?)
Pauline
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Thanks for that, Pauline. Would that be your children by any chance!! ;)
I still can't find any reference to any Ripponden PRs. Do you happen to know if this is just because they aren't yet available to buy - or is it a similar case to Almondbury and the Chapels of Ease, and perhaps I should be looking at Halifax PRs?
Jill
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St Bartholomews is the only church actually in Ripponden. I've never looked to see what is available, since I'm a newcomer to the area.
What period/events are you after?
Pauline
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I've found a likely baptism on the IGI for a Mary Crawshaw, daughter of Thomas Crawshaw. It's in 1773 in Ripponden. She married in Almondbury but I haven't been able to find a baptism for her there. Infact, not many Crawshaws at all in Almondbury. Ripponden doesn't look to be far away on the map.
I thought I could try to trace her ancestors in Ripponden, but, if it's anything like Almondbury, you really need the baptism transcriptions which hopefully include the area where the baptism took place because, unless you're very lucky, there always seems to be millions of people with the same surname - and no mother's name given!!
However, I've just found a possible marriage for her parents in nearby Elland in 1755 (Mary would have been one of their youngest children).
So now I'm really confused! Although I think Elland also comes under Calderdale FHS?
Jill
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Yup, Elland is within Calderdale as well.
Elland-Ripponden was probably an easier trek than Ripponden to Halifax.
It's on the old Rochdale-Elland packhorse route, and within the Elland Chapelry.
I seem to recall that places to marry within the Halifax area were limited to Elland (St Mary?), Halifax (St John) Parish Church and somewhere over Hebden (St James?).
The local library reference section is closed until after new year.
I can't see what's there before then for you . Hubby is wanting to check out a few post-1837 marriages, so a trip is expected in the forseeable future.
Pauline
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Just to address the last point: The church somewhere over Hebden was Saint Thomas's Church at Heptonstall - Saint Thomas a Becket [until 1847 when it was virtually destroyed by a storm] and Saint Thomas the Apostle [from 1850].
Happy New Year
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Hi Jill
We meet again! ;)
I recently got the records for Baps/Marr/Burials at St Mary's, Elland (1558-1850) and there are quite a few CRAWSHAWs but Mary's baptism is not there.
The parent's marriage is there as you say -
15/05/1755
Thomas CRAWSHAW (weaver - Batch - marked - OTP) m Mary WHITELEY (Spin - unmarked - OTP)
Witnesses -
John WHITELEY and George HARPER
Looking for baptisms for Thomas there doesn't seem to be any that fit -
Thomas bap 1667
Thomas bap 1691
Thomas bap 1691
Thomas bap 1696
Thomas bap 1761
and then Mary WHITELEY - again...none fit -
Mary bap 1745
Mary bap 1747
Changing the spelling to WHITLEY -
Mary bap 1740
Mary bap 1741
Mary bap 1746
and then to WHITELY -
Mary bap 1743
Mary bap 1745
Mary bap 1748
not there - sorry...
~ Claire
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Hi Claire,
Yes, here we are again - trying to find ancestors in West Yorkshire! I tell you, it's not for the faint hearted!! ;)
So, it looks as though Mary Crawshaw's parents were Thomas Crawshaw and Mary Whitely (does this mean I'm distantly related to the late Richard Whitely?!! Oh no!! ;D)
You'd think, if they married in Elland, one of them at least would have originated from there! I'm thinking that they both probably came from Ripponden, in view of what Pauline says about the choice of marriage places.
Could I ask, where you acquired the PRs for Elland - was it from the Calderdale FHS? Any idea where to get the Ripponden PRs?
Thanks everyone for your help. ;D
Jill
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The Elland PR's may not have included the 'child' chapels of the parish. (ie Ripponden).
Try emailing the calderdale library to see what they have filmed (yet not indexed/published).
http://www.calderdale.gov.uk/education/libraries/services/local-studies/index.html
Pauline
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Hi Jill
Got them here -
http://www.genfair.com/shop/pages/cal/page01.html
Don't know about Ripponden sorry
~ Claire
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Thanks Claire. I should have realised - I've had stuff from them before. Will now go and take a look what else they've got!(Don't tell the bank manager!!)
Jill
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(Don't tell the bank manager!!)
likewise - I feel a trip to Meltham coming on
;)
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Happy New Year to one and all at Roots Chat.
Jill,
Sorry to muddy the water but, I have found a marriage, on IGI via Family Search, Thomas Crawshaw to Susannah Rainforth on 3 March 1767 in Elland.
David
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A very happy New Year to you too David.
Yes, I'd already found the 1767 marriage between Thomas Crawshaw and Susannah Rainforth! There seem to have been 2 Thomas Crawshaws baptised in Ripponden at this time - one in 1726 and the other in 1731 - and, looking at the children and their dates, I think my Mary was the daughter of Susannah.
So, panic over - for now!! :-\
Jill
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So, it looks as though Mary Crawshaw's parents were Thomas Crawshaw and Mary Whitely (does this mean I'm distantly related to the late Richard Whitely?!! Oh no!! ;D)
You'd think, if they married in Elland, one of them at least would have originated from there! I'm thinking that they both probably came from Ripponden, in view of what Pauline says about the choice of marriage places.
Jill
What about the surrounding area for Ripponden, as in Stones and Rishworth Triangle, ETC are also listed on the IGI as Ripponden mine are from Rishworth. As i have been and looked up in the parish records of Rishworth Independent Chapel to confirm this. and yes there are a few Whitleys in there!
Maxine
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Hi Jill (and anyone else who is interested)
The Elland PR's can be found on this site
http://calderdale.gov.uk/wtw/index.html
but if you don't have the year, they take a bit of sorting out because most of them are not indexed - look at the back first !!!
good hunting
Dave
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Thanks Dave, but couldn't find any PRs.
Can you give me a clue?!! :-[
Jill
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Hi Jill,
try this
Search Archive
Search by Document type
scroll down to Parish Register
click Go
Select whichever register you want and then zoom in to read it. Just had a quick look and it seems that there are more of Halifax registers than Elland but you might get lucky. There is a lot of other interesting bits and pieces on the site as well as the registers.
Dave
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hi there i was looking at your site for ripponden, there is a family of crawshaws that are builders and contractors i sold one of them some beehives&colonys 20 years ago when i was moving to my present house. i also went to school with a lad called crawshaw he lived at ripponden cant remember is first name he might not be around now, there dropping like flys, 2 this week @69.
there was olso at least one chapel in ripponden it has just recently been converted into livings probably appartments. if interested i can soon find out what the chapel was, baptist, zion, weslyan etc, if you want to know mail me !.
plum.