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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: NIMROD on Sunday 24 December 06 15:08 GMT (UK)
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Hi.
Please can anybody help ??? I m trying to trace a burial of Edwin White. I think it could be Wokingham. He died on 22nd August 1889 aged 66. I don t know if it would have been a parish church burial or municipal cemetery.
I d be grateful for any help
Regards
Nimrod
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There is no municipal cemetery in Wokingham but there are a number of parishes and a free church cemetery. Can you give some idea of where he lived as this may help to locate which parish he is likely to have been buried in.
Berkshire FHS have recorded most of the MIs for Wokingham and a lot have been submitted to the national burial index. I am currently in Canada for Christmas but when I return to Wokingham in the new year I will check my records more thoroughly.
David
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Hi David,
Thanks very much for your reply. He actually died at 139 Walmer Road, Notting Hill, London I have made extensive enquiries around the burial grounds there without success. However, his wife Esther was from Wokingham and they settled there after marriage in 1848 where their four daughters were born. Esther s death is also registered there earlier in 1889 although I don t know the exact date.
His Will states Edwin White late of London Road, Wokingham as well as the Notting Hill address so obviously they maintained a strong connection with the town.
This is as much as have to go on so I do hope you can find something from this.
Thanks again for kind offer and a very happy festive season to you.
Regards
Nimrod
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Nimrod,
I've checked the berkshire Burial Index - no Edwin White buried in 1889, I'm afraid.
For your information, the Wokingham coverage on the CD is:
Wokingham All Saints 1813-54 (so, still a possibility?)
" Baptist 1841-1906
" Free Church Burial Ground 1921-2004 ( don't know when it began burials so could be a possibility)
Wokingham St Paul 1864-1895 and 1924-61
It might be worth following up on some of them with the Berkshire Records Office but - if he died in London - isn't it more likely he'd be buried there?
Anyway, I suppose I'd better go and do something Christmassy!! :-\
Have a good one! ;)
Jill
Jill
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Hi Jill,
Thanks very much for your help, I will follow up your leads. I did just wonder about Wokingham as his wife died there and I presume is buried there but who knows ?? This could be a tricky one I think.
Thanks again and have a really good Xmas.
Nimrod
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I live in London Road and the original church All Saints is also in London Road and so there is a chance when I get back I may be able to find something. All Saints is still an active churchyard and I know Berks FHs brought their MIs up to date for it earlier this year.
David
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David, that s really good of you and I look forward to hearing of what, if anything you re able to find.
Regards
Nimrod
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I have found nothing in the Wokingham records to which I have access.
I will have a wander round the All Saints churchyard when the weather is a little drier. A lot of the older graves are in an area "deleberately left to
encourage wild life"
What was Esther's maiden name? That may give me a lead. A quick look at BMD shows a Q4 1849 marriage in Reading district to a Esther Candy. Do you have a church for the marriage? Does this mean that the William Cardery age 18 in the 1881 census is a relation? Was Edwin born in Satley? or Saltley in Southampton or Yateley which is not far from Wokingham but in Hampshire.
I see that in 1851 from the ancestry index that they were living in Berkshire in 1851. Have you seen that entry? Does it give an address? Finding an address for them will give a better lead as to in which churchyard he might be buried.
David
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There is no address shown on the 1851 census, however a couple of households away is Scots Farm and further on is New Warren House.
Hope this helps.
Harry
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I think this locates them on the Forest Road over a mile outside Wokingham to the north All Saints is the most likely church although Binfield also becomes possibility.
David
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Hi David, Hi Harry,
I m afraid I can t confirm much of what you ask except that yes, Edwin did marry Esther Candy Reading district but church unknown, I don t have the certificate.
I have seen the 1851 census entry but as Harry alsp points out, I don t know an exact address.
Edwin was indeed baptised in Yateley on 30 June 1822.
William Cordery was his Great Nephew, son of Mary Cordery nee WHITE, Edwin s niece.
I do thank you very much for all your efforts on my behalf.
Regards
Nimrod
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Hi,
If it s of any help, Edwin and Esther had four daughters.
Emma c1850
Esther c1852
Eliza c1854
Ellen c1856
Later censuses claim all where born in Wokingham but again, I m afraid no idea of the exact parish.
Nimrod
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There are probable Wokingham births for the three youngest sisters but the nearest for Emma is in Henley.
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Finding Edwin s burial is proving very tricky. It s really the final piece of his story to put in place. If it can t be found then at least I have his death record.
Nimrod
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I walked round the appropriate part of the All Saints Churchyard today and there were no obvious gravestones. It is a very large churchyard for a small town.
David
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Thanks very much for your sterling effort on my behalf. I wonder where on earth he is ??? Oh well, perhaps something will come to light.
Many mant thanks
Nimrod
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all Saints church is on London road in Wokingham.
Joyce
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If Located off of Forest Road,then it could possibly St Pauls,I was a baptist,their church was Milton road but our neighbours were Cof E and when their daughter died she was buried at St,Pauls,I lived in a road off of Forest Road.
Joyce
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Just looking around tonight ....and
There is a church on the London Road ..oppersite The Holt School it to has a very old grave yard ......but the point is it is near to the Warren House Road
I do realise you cant find a registration of the buriel but it could be another lead to follow..........
I also seem to recall a churh yard being "taken away" but I,m not sure where that was I,ll ask my mum she may remember and try to get back to you .....
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St Paul's has a graveyard and as the church was consecrated in 1864 it is a possibility. There is also a non-conformist graveyard a bit further down the Reading Road towards Reading and the Baptist Church in Milton Road which was rebuilt in 1860 also has one. The Methodist Church in Rose Street was built in 1870 and doesn't have graveyard now I think that Berks FHS have recorded all the gravestones in Wokingham churches and so it might be worth checking what they have.
Your baptisms would have been at All Saints if they were CofE because Wokingham was a single parish until St Paul's parish was separated. St Sebastian's to the south was formed in 1871 although the church was built in 1864.
David
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There is a burial for Edwin White at All Saints, Wokingham on 26 August 1889. He was 66 years and his address was given as London Road.
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Hi Berkclass,
Thank you so much for that info. At last I can finish this piece of the jigsaw. I would also like to thank everybody who has contributed to my quest and apologize for not having answered sooner. I changed my e mail address and forgot to notify Rooschat, therefore I received no notifications and assumed no further developments and didn t check it.
Many thanks again to you all
Nimrod
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Hi David,
Thanks very much for your reply. He actually died at 139 Walmer Road, Notting Hill, London I have made extensive enquiries around the burial grounds there without success. However, his wife Esther was from Wokingham and they settled there after marriage in 1848 where their four daughters were born. Esther s death is also registered there earlier in 1889 although I don t know the exact date.
His Will states Edwin White late of London Road, Wokingham as well as the Notting Hill address so obviously they maintained a strong connection with the town.
This is as much as have to go on so I do hope you can find something from this.
Thanks again for kind offer and a very happy festive season to you.
Regards
Nimrod
Hello ,
You didn't say whether you had it, but Esther was buried Wokingham All Saints
5 June 1889 of London Rd. (Berks FHS Burial Index )
Yours
Vicwinann
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Hi Vicwinann,
Thank you very much. No, I didn t have that info, only her approx date of death through FreeBMD. It s nice to add some closing details on Esther s life.
Many thanks again
Nimrod