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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: alan-essex on Sunday 17 December 06 16:00 GMT (UK)
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Experience has taught me that the vast majority of Beedhams are descended from, or related to, James Beedham and Margaret Bainbridge who lived in Claypole, Lincolnshire in the late 17th Century.
There is one family that, despite all effort I cannot discover their roots. I would be very grateful if anyone can help.
Alan
Details of this family group are as follows:
John William1 Beedham, born 9 Sep 1885 in Brighton, Sussex; died May 1963 in Cuckfield, Sussex. He married Eileen Saint, born 27 Jun 1897 in India; died Apr 1968 in Oundle, Peterborough, Northants.
(CAPTAIN IN THE BRITISH ARMY TRAINING HORSES IN INDIA EARLY IN 20th CENTURY
SO WAS HIS OLDEST SON PATRICK
DERRICK WAS A FLIGHT LIEUTENANT IN THE RAF
JOSEPH (OTHERWISE KNOWN AS JEFFREY) WAS A PILOT OFFICER & WAS KILLED IN ACTION IN 1940)
Children of John William Beedham and Eileen Saint were as follows:
i Patrick Beedham, born 1915 in India.
ii Joseph Jeffery Ian Beedham, born 1917 in India; died 7 Oct 1940. Notes: Pilot 245 Sqn Royal Air Force - Killed in Action. Burial Place: Glenavy, Lisburn, Northern Ireland, Roman Catholic Cemetery - Plot 4, West Side, Grave 20 Inscription: In Memory of Pilot Officer JOSEPH JEFFERY IAN BEEDHAM 84943, 245 Sqdn., Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve who died on 07 October 1940 Remembered with Honour
iii Derrick W Beedham, born 1918 in India. He married unknown.
iv June Eileen Beedham, born 15 Jun 1921 in India; died 2 Apr 1995 in Pasadena, California, USA. She married William S Eliel.
Generation 2
Derrick W Beedham (John William), born 1918 in India. He married unknown.
Whilst serving with 616 Squadron at RAF Tangmere, on 23 June 1941, Derrick Beedham baled out over the English Channel and was later rescued.
On 25 January 1942 P.O. Derrick Beedham left Tangmere for the Middle East. (216 Squadron - Syria, Cyprus Egypt & the Western Desert)
Derrick, finished the war as a Flight Lieutenant
Children of Derrick W Beedham were as follows:
i Christopher Beedham.
ii Ian Paul Beedham.
June Eileen Beedham (John William), born 15 Jun 1921 in India; died 2 Apr 1995 in Pasadena, California, USA. She married in 1944 William S Eliel, born 16 Dec 1919 in Los Angeles, Califorrnia, USA; died 27 May 1996 in Tulsa, Oklahoma,USA, son of Leon Eliel and Elizabeth Streeter.
Children of June Eileen Beedham and William S Eliel were as follows:
i Geoffrey Eliel.
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Hi Alan,
You have the birthdate, so do you have the birth certificate for John William BEEDHAM? I expect you have this reference already but just in case,
Birth
John William BEEDHAM Dec Q 1885 Brighton v.2b p.238
Regards
Daisy
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Thanks Daisy,
I have the information from John William's birth and death certificates, however these aren't helping much. In the 1891 and 1901 censuses there are no signs of any Beedhams in Brighton and I cannot locate the father or John W Beedham in any other location in England. I quess the family must have cleared off to India by then?
Regards
Alan
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Hi Alan,
It's possible they were abroad for the censuses or maybe his mother had remarried, or he's just hiding under some awful mistranscription :-\
What were his parents names?
Daisy
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Hi Daisy,
James, a Gardener and Gorden (m/s) Turtle.
I've tried all the usual mispellings, Budham,Beadham, Beecham, etc., but to no avail.
Alan
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Hi Alan,
This is what I have found,
Marriage
James BEEDHAM Dec Q 1868 Grantham v.7a p.885
Gorden TURTLE on same page
Transcribed as James and Gardner BERDHAM in 1871,
1871 RG10/3351 f.101 p.24 Wilsford, Lincolnshire
Wilsford ?? of Ancaster
James BEEDHAM Head Mar 25 Groom & Carrier Lincoln Claypole
Gordon BEEDHAM Wife Mar 26 Marnham Nottm
Elizabeth WILLIAMS Niece Unm 5 Shepherd Daur Wootlington? Lincoln
I can't find them anywhere in 1881 :'(
1891 RG12/416 f.29 p.8 Lambeth, London
348 Cold Harbour Lane
James BEEDHAM Head Mar 45 Gardener Own Account Claypole Lincolnshire
Gorden BEEDHAM Wife Mar 47 Marnham Nottinghamshire
John NEWBY Lodger Mar 48 Gardener Own Account Benhall East Suffolk
In 1894 it looks like Gorden remarries,
Gorden BEEDHAM Sep Q 1894 Wandsworth v.1d p.1097
George ALGER on same page
1901 RG13/412 f.58 p.12 Lambeth
104 Kennington Park Road
George ALGER Head M 54 Working Horsekeeper Norfolk
Gorden " " Wife M 54 Marnham Nottingham
William FORSTER Boarder S 24 Working Carman Wimbledon Surrey
Charles FERGUSON " S 69 Working Horsekeeper Ireland
Thomas LEONARD " S 25 Groom " Sligo " "
Daniel LANE Visitor M 46 Working on Farm Limerick " "
So if these are John William's parents (it does look like his father comes from Claypole :)) where is he in 1891 and 1901 :-\ ???
Daisy
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Good work Daisy!
I think the niece's birthplace may be Waddington.
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Thanks Daisy and Geoff,
There is something not quite right, James Beedham died March 1892 in Wandsworth
I've sent the info. that you have posted to William John Beedham's great-grandson Geoffrey, who lives in Pasadena, Los Angeles. Geoffrey and his siblings have been trying to find their English roots for the past twenty years but have remained stuck at Brighton 1885. I have been working from transcripts of the birth and death certificates that they sent to me, I have now placed an order for the full copies from the ONS. I will let you know if I glean any more info from these certificates when they arrive.
Alan
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Dear Alan,
I am a Beedham, a member of the family you were researching in 2006.
I am a son of Derrick William Beedham (b1918), brother of Ian and half brother of Christopher.
I have been trying to find information concerning my grandfather John William Beedham (b1885).
Any information you found out after posting this thread would be very helpful. Do you publish the results of your researches anywhere? (ancestry.com/uk?).
I am a beginner at this game, but believe you may have found the wrong parents for John William, so maybe I can help you?
Hope to hear from you soon.
Nigel