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I'm trying to find the parents of Thomas Hickes (my g-g-g-g-grandfather) married to Susannah Elizabeth Hupsman on 19 Dec 1786.
Thomas and Suzannah had 10 children:
Frederick bapt 19 Dec 1787 @ Stone
Augustus Thomas bapt 6 Aug 1789 "
Harriet bapt 29 Jul 1790 "
Suzannah Elizabeth bapt 22 Mar 1792 "
Baptist William bapt 16 Aug 1793 "
Henry bapt 27 Aug 1795 "
John Cox bapt 24 Sept 1797 "
Caroline bapt 3 Jul 1801 "
Thomas bapt 9 Nov 1802 "
and Thomas bapt 26 Feb 1806
My g-g-g-grandfather was the youngest (Thomas) and although I have not found a death cert I assume Thomas (1802) died in infancy. To make the search even harder there seems to be another family of Hickes from Gloustershire who bears the name of Thomas (also 1806) who became a Surgeon and whose father was also Thomas. My Thomas became the Surveyor of Roads and County Bridges in Cornwall.
If anyone is able to help me on this I would greatly appreciate it
Talkingdrum
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Hello Talkingdrum & welcome to Rootschat!
I think you're probably right to assume that Thomas 1802 died in infancy as along came Thomas 1806. However, you won't find a death cert for that time period due to registartion not starting until Sep Q 1837. Before that time, you'd be looking for a burial record in the Parish Records.
Hope that helps a little :)
Debbie
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Thanks for your reply Debbie, I've tried Parish Records too with no success at this stage. :'(
Talkingdrum
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Found this, it may be of help
Thomas Hickes baptised 17 June 1768 in St Michael's Church, Hill, Glos
Sarah, baptised 28 March 1762, same church. (Hicks)
Parents Robert & Mary Hickes
The parish of Hill is about 6 miles from Stone
Burials in Berkeley churchyard
Thomas Hickes, buried 26 Jan 1803, son of Thomas, Cheese factor
Thomas Hickes, buried 5 March 1804, at Berkeley, twin with Edward and son of Thomas
regards
Alf
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Thank you Alf, the Thomas buried 26 Jan 1803 is the 2nd youngest child, the other Thomas, twin of Edward belongs to the other family I mentioned.
I will check on the details of Robert and Mary and see what they bring me! :)
talkingdrum
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I have not been able to find anything on Robert and Mary Hickes or been able to verify if the Thomas bpt 17 June 1768 is my ancestor...I'm researching from Australia and so rely on what I can find online. Any suggestions where I might be able to get more information? I found Scribes Alcove was a good site and this gave me the info posted above but I have not been able to get anything else from there.
Talkingdrum
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Buried in Stone churchyard
Mary HICKS of Berkeley, daughter of Nicholas & Elizabeth
7 Jul 1889, 87
Rev. George HICKS 14 Mar 1810, 70
Ann 25 Nov 1829, 72
Elizabeth 2 April 1834, 85
Buried in Berkeley churchyard
John Cox HICKES, Town Surgeon, 8 Feb 1848, 20
Mary, wife, 30 Jun 1866, 63
John Cox HICKS, Surgeon, 21 Feb 1870, 72
Susan Anne, daughter, 14 Jul 1834 - 18 Dec 1884
Alf
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Hi Alf
Sorry it's taken me so long to reply but I've been off line and have only just solved my computer issues!!!
I now know that my Thomas (Snr) is the Cheese factor bapt 4 Sept 1750 at Berkeley, Married 19 Dec 1786 and buried 26 Jan 1803 in Berkeley churchyard.
Thomas Jnr is brother to John Cox Hickes, Town Surgeon.
Thomas Hickes Snr is the son of Nicholas & Elizabeth Hickes, so you have now given me another member of his family, thank you so much.
I guess now I'm looking for more info on Nicholas and family!!!
Regards Kath :)
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Hello, I am wondering if you have links or info on the HICKS/HICKES Family in the Fiji Islands (and Samoa). Common names appearing in each generation from earliest records (late 1700 - 1800s) we can find are WILLIAM, EDWARD, FREDERICK, THOMAS.
Any information will be appreciated :) thanks!
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Hi oneslickshoe
What sort of information are you looking for? My mother is a Hickes from Sigatoka, the daughter of Frederick, granddaughter of Frederick and great-granddaughter of Edward the Englishman who came to Fiji and married Lucia Buliyaragi the daughter of Tui Matanitobua of Namosi, one of the chiefs who signed the deeds of cession to Great Britian. I have some of the family tree put together, but I have huge holes in it. Perhaps we can exchange information?
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Hi there!
Thanks so much for your quick response. I am descended from WILLIAM HICKS, who I believe was a sibling of Edward Hicks.
Is your Edward Hicks the same NED (EDWARD) THOMAS HICKS Born 1858, Navua, Fiji? FamilySearch.org records show this Edward Hicks as Fiji born and married to LUISA BULIYARAGI & Father of FREDERICK WILLIAM HICKS. (I shall post the link later if you wish).
Records in history show that my ancestor WILLIAM HICKS was a Fiji half caste that served as Second Mate/Bosun to the notorious Blackbirder/Pirate William "Bully" Hayes aboard the "Leonora." Events recorded show William Hicks arriving and settling in Samoa around 1874.
WILLIAM HICKS married MATELENA VAIOLI of Amaluia (American Samoa) and had a son, JOSEPH WILLIAM HICKS Born Jan 14 1889 (Baptised July 14 1889).
William Hicks' Samoan descendant THOMAS JOHN HICKS Born 1904 in Samoa is my paternal grandfather. He was a sailor like his ancestor William, and chose to remain in Fiji whilst on a stopover. He married MARY BUCKNELL in 1936 and settled in Navutu, Lautoka, thus reconnecting his Fiji Bond/Link. I have no doubts that our branches are related. If you look @ dates, it would make sense that William and Edward were siblings. I could be wrong though.
My goal is to find the origins of the first Hicks lineage in Fiji, I'd be more than delighted if I could go further. Any information you may have to share would be greatly appreciated. Thank you again for responding.
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Hi
Our research has some common ground, but where did you get your information on Edward? He was definately born in Cornwall and not Fiji. Can you email me directly on
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I spoke with my mother about the information you gave and I think you might be surprised by what I learned.
Kath
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Hi,
My information on Edward was taken from FamilySearch.org (LDS Site) I tried inserting the link in here but doesn't work. I've taken snapshots of the pages and are attaching them in an email to you.
Cheers.
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Hi talkingdrum
I hope you don't mind me jumping on to this posting, but I noticed that you have Fitzpatricks from Derravona, Co Cavan at the bottom of your posting. I am doing genealogy research for a friend and one of her mother's cousins was an Austin Fitzpatrick, who lived in Derravona, Co. Cavan. I believe he was born in the 1920s - does that name ring a bell?
regards
Deirdre
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Hi Dierdre,
Yes I am aware of an Austin Fitzpatrick from Derravona although he is not from my family, I visited there in 2008 and got some of the census records from there, I will have a look and see if I can find anything on the family for you. I have a feeling that he might have been part of the Phil of the Pass family but I'm not sure, there are only a couple of Fitzpatrick families left in Derravona, as most have died out, including my family, but I will see what I can dig up for you.
Regards Kath
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Hi, I have a powder horn from Fiji dated 1883 signed F Hickes and I know he was on Fiji Colonial census at that time and lived in Nadi/Lautoka are in west of Viti Levu. I believe he was son of Edward and Adi Lusia who was herself d/o of Tui Namosi.
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I have powder horn inscribed F Hickes which I know came from Lautoka/Nadi areas it is dated 1883 and I guess he might well be son of Edward /Adi Lusia.
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Hi guntop
That would have been my great grandfather Frederick, who was indeed the son of Edward Hickes and Adi Luisa Buliyaragi Matanitobua the daughter of the Tui Namosi. He lived in Sigatoka which is also on the west side on the Coral Coast but the family also had links with Lautoka. I had the opportunity to meet him when I was 10 years old and holidaying at my Aunts in Fiji. It is lovely to know that something of his is still exists, thanks for letting me know. The family recently were invited to Namosi by the current Tui Namosi, where we forged the links between our families again. We have started a facebook page for the family and I would like to pass on the information that this article exists, would you be ok with that? Is it possible to get a photo of it?
Regards Kath
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HI Kath,
Where are you based. Are you in UK or OZ? I would be happy to send picture and will arrange for it but do you have direct email. I acquired the powder horn from a retired and elderly schoolmaster who lived in Pacific Harbour area and who was a collector of seashells as was I. I visited him one day many years back to exchange shells as one does and he produced the horn with the name F Hickes 1883 etched into it. He told me he had previously lived in Lautoka, presumably when he was active in education, and said he had found it beneath the floor boards of his then home during a major renovation. Could that have been his original home I wonder? I later looked his name up in the Colonial resdency records held at the High Commission and discovered one F Hickes was registered as a European national in Western Fiji, (not sure where exactly now as it was a while ago) I kept it but was considering to give it to the Fiji Museum which was run by an acquaintance of mine. They had some settlers horn objects and in any case it would not have been displayed so I kept it. I researched his name on the internet recently. I often wondered about its history and about the person whom I assumed because of his name was some sort of settler maybe in the copra industry or sugar farming. I note his descendants are related to the Pickerings and Simpsons I believe and possibly Whippys. If it could only talk. A good tale in it and a book I guess. Regards Guntop....
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Hi guntop
I am in Brisbane, Australia, I can give you my personal email through the personal messages in this forum. Yes, g-grandfather Fred was married to Lice Pickering and we are related to the Simpsons and the Whippys along with many other kailoma families. I am not sure what he would have done as an occupation in Lautoka but he was a baker in Sigatoka.....yes what a story this horn may have told!
Regards Kath