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Am having trouble finding relatives in Ontario despite what seem to be fairly uncommon names-
Horace Peckover
born 29 July 1853 England
died 12 Sept.1930
Married 20 Aug.1877 Liverpool, Queens, N.S.
to Bessie Gardner
born 4 Dec.1853 N.S.
died 8 Jan.1926.
According to family tradition there were two sons- Cecil & Horace, both steel merchants in Toronto.
Last night I found Cecil Roderick Peckover, steel merchant, Toronto, born c1878, travelling to U.S. several times.
Ancestry.com lists 1 entry for Cecil Peckover in Ontario, Canada Marriages 1857-1922. Could someone look up this record for me?
1901 Census Horace and wife Bessie (Bessy) living at Elderslie, Bruce North, Ontario.
They should be in 1881 & 1911 census but I haven't found them. Also, where are the sons in 1901?
Also found mention of a George Peckover "Recollections of Ellis Avenue and Swansea Toronto" who could be connected- Cecil gave his address as 233 Ellis Ave. in 1941.
Can anyone help?
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Hi
The marriage for Cecil Roderick Peckover is as follows
Cecil Roderick Peckover
Place of Birth Boryor Maine Us
Age 34
Father Horace Peckover
Mother Besser Pecover Nee Gardner
Birth year est 1879
Spouse Margaret Garrett Gall
Age 38
Born Toronto Canada
Father George Gall
Mother Maria Gall Nee Mars
Marriage Date 22 Jan 1913
Marriage place York
County York
kd
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Kd- thank so much for looking up the marriage so quickly. It is the person I'm looking for. In 1941 Cecil gave his birthplace as Toronto so never would have looked for his birth in US.
Forgot to mention in original post that Cecil's father, Horace Peckover was a minister. I thought he went from England to Nova Scotia to Ontario but have just a few minutes ago discovered that he was all over the place!
Rev. Horace Peckover minister of Mehoopany & Meshoppen Presbyterian Churches, living in Mehsoppen, Wyoming Co., Pennsylvania (not sure of dates).
Also, 29 June 1917 found Horace and wife Bessie travelling from Hamilton, Bermuda to Toronto, Ontario via N.Y.
Will have to widen my searches to include U.S. and Bermuda.
Thanks again.
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Hello hello,
I was able to find two references to two Peckover's that I believe are yours.
One is a Ernest Peckover in WW1 attestation papers.
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc013/571201a.gif
He lists his mother as Margaret from North Bay (which I am figuring to be your Margaret). Please note there are two other Peckover's listed one from Yorkshire, and one from Surrey.
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=582352
This is from the St. George Society (??) book/paper. It lists a Cecil R. Peckover who died in 1964.
Found this just now.
http://www.elginogs.ca/newsindexes/timesjournal/sttj1941janthrujun.html ... Go down the page to page 10....
Hope this little bit helps ....
Jeff
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Jeff- thanks for the information.
Cecil R. Peckover d.1964 gives me a date of death now.
Ernest William Peckover in attestation papers was born 1 Mar.1895 and Cecil only married 1913 so he doesn't belong to my family.
Tried to open 3rd link but site came up as not valid.
Since my last posting I have discovered C.R.(Cecil) age 18 & H.J. (Horace) age 15 Peckover traveling from Jamaica to Boston in transit to Toronto. Young Horace born in Jamaica and Cecil in US. It looks like the boys were sent to school in Toronto.
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Okay quick question for you ...
Did your Peckovers come west?? I have a lead on a Charles and Andrew Peckover one was born in Ontario??
NO problem...glad to help
Jeff
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Just got the engagement announcement by going through website- very interesting. That's probably the George Peckover I found later on.
Not sure if Charles and Andrew are the same. Did come across Peckovers in Winnipeg that are not connected.
Thanks again
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Hi
Just found a death for Horace Joseph Peckover in 1930 Manatee Florida
kd
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Well here's the link to the Peckover's in Craik in case they are yours.
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=647836
On a side note, I did find a few references linking a W. H. Peckover as a minister to a few areas in Canada... I don't know what W. H. stands for (William Horace?? just a guess :))
Jeff
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hi
1900 US census
Horace Peckover age 46 England
Bessie Peckover age 47 Canada English
Year of immigration 1898 Preacher
Living in Meshoppen Wyoming Pennsylvania
kd
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Found the parents in Elderslie, Ontario.
www.automatedgenealogy.com
www.collectionscanada.ca
1901 Census
Elderslie
BRUCE (North)
ONTARIO
(District: 49 - Subdistrict f-3 - Page 10 - Line 49)
Horace Peckover
Head
Married
Occupation: Preacher
Birth Date: Jul 29
Birthplace: England
Age at Last Birthday: 47
Bessy Peckover
Wife
Married
Birthdate: Dec 4
Birthplace: England
Age at Last Birthday: 47
Janice
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hi again
1911 census Canada transcribbed as Peckonis
Horace Head age 47 birth date Jul 1853 place England year of immigration 1896 minister
Bessie Wife age 47 birth date Oct 1853 place USA year of immigration 1903
Hannah Later Daughter single age 30 birth date Mar 1881 place England Year of immigration 1910
Horace Son single age 29 brith date Mar 1882 place wisconsin year of immigration 1905
Cecil Son single birth date Jun 1887 place USA year of immigration 1901
living
Ontario
Toronto South
District no 127
Sub- District Ward Six
Sub-District No 65
Place of Habitation 86 Cowan Ave
Dont know if this makes sense to you but all the names apart from hannah are correct
I cant read the actual image because it is very blurred
kd
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Here are some links
http://www.wmpub.ca/1010-dymond.htm#index
http://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/0/o92x0100.htm
http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=14415339&map=0&page=0&ics=1
Seaside Cemetery
Brooklyn, Nova Scotia
http://www.rootsweb.com/~canns/queens/seaside.html
Rev. Horace Peckover
Birth: July 29, 1853
Death: September 12, 1930
Bessie
Birth: December 4, 1853
Death: January 8, 1926
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lackawanna/vitals/marriages/arnold-morgan1898.txt
PennState Library
http://www.libraries.psu.edu/
http://www.libraries.psu.edu/do/digitalbookshelf/28004492/28004492_part_03.pdf
http://www.libraries.psu.edu/do/digitalbookshelf/28004492/28004492_part_09.pdf
Marriage: Henry Peckover & Margaret Condie
http://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/188/m188j000.htm
Janice
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Here is a link for Queens County Nova Scotia, where Seaside Cemetery is listed
http://www.rootsweb.com/~canns/queens/
Janice
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Janice- thanks for all the information.
The Dymond Peckovers are not related to me.
I knew that Horace & Bessie were buried in Brooklyn as are most of Bessie's family. I haven't been there in over 20 years but just about everyone in Brooklyn seems to be related.
The 1901 census (Elderslie) gives Bessie as born in England but she was actually born in Brooklyn. Strangely enough they have also turned up in 1900 Census in Pennsylvania.
KD- never would have found them in 1911 Census- Peckonis?... the big surprise is a daughter Hannah. No one in the family ever mentioned a daughter and since she was 30 in 1911 you'd think someone would have remembered her. Unfortunately I have no one to ask.
There seem to be lots of mistakes on the census, although possibly down to Horace's handwriting.
Bessie was born in N.S. not U.S. (maybe NS misread as US?).
Horace and Bessie were married in 1877 and I'm pretty sure at this point that Cecil was born in 1878, not 1887.
Census says Horace born Wisconsin but I found he was born in Jamaica!
Think Horace Joseph Peckover d.1930 in Florida is Bessie's son.
These relatives seem to be all over the place! Many thanks to all.
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KD- went to automatedgenealogy to find Peckovers and was able to look at scanned copy of 1911 census which clears up several things.
Automatedgenealogy has transcibed the name as PECKOWAY, Bessie is born in NS not US , son Cecil born June 1877 USA, son Horace J. born Mar.1882 West Indies (not Wisconsin)
and the Hannah listed is a maid!- Hannah Tates, single, born Mar.1881 England.
At least that's Hannah out of the way, and I don't have to start searching for the family in Wisconsin.
I knew Bessie's husband was a minister but never heard they'd lived in Jamaica or even Pennsylvania. Bessie's cousin married a minister and they were missionaries in Brazil and that was certainly talked about even when I was young.
Thanks again.
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hi
Glad to have helped
kd
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Hi Aghadowey,
There is Peckover's Steel company in Concord, Ontario which basically is Toronto. The company was established in 1894.
http://www.peckovers.com/
Karen
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Horace Joseph Peckover and wife Bessie are my great-grand parents.
Cecil Peckover is my grandfather. He listed different birth places as he was born on the ship on the way over from England. Protocol is that your place of birth is then the first port of call (Maine). He always wanted to be born in Canada so kept changing it. CRP started Peckover's Steel. My father sold it. CRP bought and created the property on Ellis Avenue.
The Horace Joseph who died in Florida was CRP's brother.
George is (was) my father. Dad wrote the booklet about Ellis Ave. and Swansey (the neighbourhood) for the local historical society.
Most of the other Peckover references in the post stream are not in my family.
For a few years I have been working on a family tree (Ancestry.ca - "Watson-Tow-Peckover") which now contains over 500 individuals. I have been able to trace my Peckover heritage back to a Joseph and Emma, married in 1812 in Brislington, England. THis was his second wife. THey had three boys.
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What a lovely surprise to see your post :)
I'm descended from Bessie Gardner's brother James and if I've calculated correctly then my grandmother & your father were 2nd cousins which makes us 3rd cousins once removed.
Since this topic was started I've found a bit more about the Peckovers and lots on the Gardners. We aren't allowed to post personal details but if you'd like to exchange family information let me know (once you've 2 posts you can us PM- personal message- system to exchange email addresses, etc.).
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Re bpeckover & Joseph and Emma Peckover of Brislington Bristol Somerset; I too have got this far but also have a "competing" Joseph Peckover - he is 1766-1821 on another of my Peckover Trees and am now trying to ascertain whether some of the details have been wrongly attributed between these two Josephs!
a couple of possible references
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/D150501
and
http://churchdb.gukutils.org.uk/GLS1342.php; where he possibly may have been buried;
regards
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Joseph & Emma Peckover have nothing to do with my family as my connection comes in much later. Bpeckover might be interested but they haven't been back online since my post (waiting with my fingers crossed to hear from them).
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I have just tweaked bpeckover's settings....hopefully they will now be able to pick up on these new replies...
:)
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Thanks Sarah
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Sorry aghadowey, I have been away for a while, home today, and then away again for week, here for two days, and away for two weeks - summer time in Canada with three properties to maintain and a first grandson of two months to spoil. We chose to not have Internet connection at the two out-of-town properties.
We have had some research done into Joseph by the British Ancestors Research folk. We haven't fully synthesized the results as they are not 100% conclusive in matching him with the Joseph in the Peckover Family Tree posted by Peckover House.
A good rainy day project.
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Good to hear back from you and hope you get lots of chances to spoil the new grandson. Will send you a PM (Personal Message) :)
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Glad to hear that you're being circumspect abt the various Josephs; yours (Bristol mercer & silk merchant) is most likely to have the 1821 death in Reading usually misattributed to another Joseph of the Wisbech branch. Will be interested to hear of any conclusions you reach, Good luck!