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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Yorkshire (West Riding) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests => Topic started by: mccartie on Friday 08 December 06 21:06 GMT (UK)
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i,m searching my fathers family,I'm hitting a brick wall,dad was emil,gwynfa,henry Taylor 1914,dads, dad was George,henry Taylor his father was henryTaylor was born in Leeds,not sure where his dad and mother Marie,Louisedunnett.i have got a marriage certificate that tells me there parents, dads, dad was married in leicester 1908,I'm not sure if there is a Scottish connection,but on the marriage certificate both lived in Leicester but granddad and grandma moved to Leeds Yorkshire,lived in hunslet,i have the address,anymore information anyone can give me no matter how small i will be most gratefull xxx
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Do you have Emils birth certificate ?
http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk
Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1914
TAYLOR Emil G H
Leeds North
Leeds NORT/290/151
Paul
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thankyou yes paul i sent for it,why?did you want to see it i can scan it and send it you,or were you telling mr where i can get it ?lol brenda xxx
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I'm not quite sure what information you're looking for ...
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its his mum my nannie,i have her marriage lines,but not sure where she was born,i know she died in leeds when i was 10,1956.i have here husband my grandad on the certificate not sure where he was born or died he left my nannie to bring 3 boys up,i beleive he went to bradford but again its only what i heard.i have traced mums grandma side to the 15 50,s.but dads is proving hard i wish i had asked him when he was alive.i have found some information but i just need it confirming,im on a limited income and i cant afford to send for certificates that are not of any use.i have dads death,birth,marriage,nannies marriage.dad was in the merchant navy i have a certificate for that,but he had an appendisitus at sea and had to come home.im new and im making mistakes on this one.thank you for your help brenda xx
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How old is your grandmother on her marriage certificate - that should give a rough idea of when she was born, then we can look on the GRO index.
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The GRO Index scans are free to view on
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/
go to >> England & Wales BMD Indexes
then >> Complete BMD Index ranges & Images 1837-1983
I found a Marie L. Taylor who died in 1956 (September Quarter), death registered in York, age 63 (So she would have been born c1893)
This is the only death that fits and I looked in 1955 and 1957 as well ...
But if she was married in 1908 ? she would have been 15/16 .... so maybe not her.
Did she revert to her maiden name Dunnett ?
Paul
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hi paul i found this on a 1881 british census
john t(thomas dunnett)hackford norfolk head 43 farm labourer
hannah dunnett wife southery norfol aged 42
mary l dunnett dau feltwell norfolf 6
john dunnett feltwell norfolk,son 4
george dunnett feltwell norfolk son 3
charles dunnett feltwell norfolk 11months
charles porter southery 65 farm labourer lodger
i think this might be my nannie marie louise dunnett,but put as mary.
this was on a british census household record.
what do you think,i beleive this fits as she was 22 in 1908 when she married in
1908 leicester reg office
her father was john thomas dunnett (farmer) there was a john dunnett as a wittness
brenda xxx
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yes she died in leeds though why was it reg in york it does not fit,she died in leeds that i know for definet.her husband was george henry taylor,he was 21 when they married.he was a general labourer.his father was henry taylor,on the certificate it says john henry taylor also as a wittness.brenda xx
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There is a Mary L Dunnett (could have misheard Marie) on the 1901 census born c 1886 in Spalding Lincs, living in Norfolk with her widowed mother.
What age was your Marie on her marriage cert and what is her fathers name and occupation. It will help knowing this info to find her. Also if I have read correctly George Henry abandoned her, did she ever remarry?
Kath
P.S. Had a mad moment, you have already said how old Marie was on this thread and the fathers name, I will how and go and investigate the family I found in 1901 further :D
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If she was 22 in 1908 she would have been born c1886 - she would not have been around in 1881 ...
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There is a birth reg in the Sep-Dec qtr 1885 for a Mary Louisa in the district of Spalding, 7a, 388a (www.freebmd.org).
1901 census - Holts Lane, Hilgay, Norfolk (RG13/1894, Folio 58, Page 16)
H.E. Burnett, Head, Wid, 62, Norfolk, Southery
Mary L " , Dau, S, 15, Servant Domestic, at home, Lincs Spalding
1891 census - Powderblue Cottage, Eye, Peterborough, Northamptonshire (RG12/1232, Folio 101, Page 7)
Thomas Dunnett, Head, M, 51, Farm Labourer, Norfolk Hackford
Hannah " , Wife, M 51 " , Southery
John " , Son, 14, Farm Boy " , Fettlewell
George " , " , 13 " " , "
Mary " , Dau, 5 Lincs, Spalding
This all fits in with the 1881 census you have, it is possible that the Mary in that census had died and named the daughter in 1886 after her.
Kath
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Have you looked in the GRO ?
Births Dec 1885
Mary Louisa DUNNETT
Spalding 7a 388a
Paul
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Beat me to it Kath !
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Ah, sorry ljuk.
There is a death registration in the qtr Sep- Dec 1881 for a Mary Louisa Dunnett aged 6 in the registration district of King's Lynn, Norfolk. So that fits in nicely.
Kath
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FreeBMD also has listed on the same page a marriage in the qtr Sep-Dec 1858 for John Thomas Dunnett and Hannah Elizabeth Osler, reg dist Downham, 4b, 1045.
Kath
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Phew .. this is all getting very confusing
We should start again at the beginning and work backwords slowly, I think
Paul ???
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Can you post us all the details on Emils birth certificate ...
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and his marriage and death certs ?
Cheers,
Paul
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kath on her marriage lines 1908 her father was deceased,so you seem to have found something brenda xxx
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Hi Brenda,
Again on www.freebmd.org there is a death reg in the registration district of Downham in 1895 for John Thomas Dunnett aged 57, which fits in nicely.
Kath
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thankyou kath i think ere getting there many thanks brenda xx
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dads birth certificate
born 26th feb 1914 25,providence place,hunslet,leeds yorkshire.
emil gwynfa taylor,
father george henry taylor,mother marie louise taylor former dunnett
father,s occupation motor mechanic.registered on the 15th april 1914
his mother,s 7 fathers marriage
30/07 1908 george henry taylor,marie louise dunnett,his address 36,redcross street,leicester.her address 18,curzor street,leicester,his father was henry taylor,her father was john thomas (deceased)henry was a coachman and george was a farmer.
the rest i know is what i have told you.george left nannie and i belive he went to bradford. brenda xxx
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her father was a farmer,his was a coachman sorry brenda xx
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im so sorry folks im getting tired please exscuse me i will look in tomorrow have a good night and again many many thanks sleep well,brenda xxx
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Thanks Brenda,
Just helps to know all the facts, it's easy to speculate
Sleep well
Paul x
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Hi Brenda,
Hope you had a good nights sleep. You said that there was a John Dunnett as a witness on the marriage cert, whom was the other witness? It might provide a clue.
I was hoping to find a death for Hannah Elizabeth Dunnett in either Leicester or Leeds, but she died in the reg dist of Downham in 1902.
The brother John listed on the censuses previously was living in Peterborough in 1901, married to an Alice.
Kath
P.S. Did Marie/Mary ever remarry?
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no nannie remarried she was a strict catholick,so i dont think there was a divorce either.peterborough sounds right as dad as a boy is dressed in scottish dress,you have been working hard,i did have a good night,im undergoing tests on my liver so with worry and illness i get tired easily,i really do thank you for all your doing its the furthest i have got in 2 years.hannaas far as i know never lived in leeds,only nannie.brenda xxx
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so here both father and mother were dead when she marrried grandad in 1908? brenda
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Hi Brenda,
Very sorry to hear about your illness, I wish you the best of health.
The Peterborough, I have been talking about, is in Northamptonshire, not Scotland. It is quite sad that Mary Louise Dunnett, lost both her parents by the age of 16.
Do you have the name of the second witness on her marriage cert? As I said, this might prove to be a useful clue, as it would be nice to confirm that we have found the correct Mary/Maria.
Regards, Kath
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kath the second wittness was arthur james wonfer it looks like wonfer
who do you think henry james taylor is then? as he was a wittnes,must have been george henry,s brother?,when i keep looking for replies here i find it hard to get them why,i have to tick all the places to get back her,so i go to my in mail and click there to get here if you know what i mean lol brenda xxx brenda
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Hi Brenda,
I am a little confused :D Earlier in the thread you said that John Dunnett was a witness. Now I understand that Arthur James Wonfer is the second witness; but where does this Henry James Taylor fit in?
I have to say I am really intrigued by your dad's name, it is so unusual :)
The quickest way to see your replies, is to use the link in your e mail notification :)
Until I hear back from you, I will see what I can find on Arthur James Wonfer (+variations)!
Regards, Kath
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kath im ever so sorry i was bogged down last night,and we have had no electric for 2 hours,we have overhead cables and one had come down.the 2 wittnesses are henry john taylor and arthur james wonfor.
i have put my tree on ancestry and downloaded the marraige certificate on there can i do it on these threads ?brenda xxx
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i know it seems welsh,i wonder if there is a welsh connection,he had a brother called cyril joffrey and another colin who was a male nurse in killingbeck hospital in leeds but died young i dont think he was mrried,i never saw him if i did i cant remember,so he must have died in the 40,s
brenda xxx
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Hi Brenda,
You can attach a marriage cert on here, when you are posting a message, underneath the message box, there is an option you can click on, which reads "Attach a photograph or image (and other options).." I have been on Ancestry and seen a copy of the marriage cert on there, I read the surname as Wonfor, I did find a 7 year old Arthur James Wonfor on the 1891 census living in Leicester, which looked interesting, but cannot find him on the 1901 yet.
I am going to concentrate on George Henry Taylor and the witness Henry John Taylor (too many Henry's). I take it you have not found them on a census yet!
I won't be able to do anything until later tonight though.
Kath
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kath just read your mesage,our electric went off for 2 hours and i have had an awfull time getting my computer to work properly,a friend i hope has now sorted it.he thinks the surge of electricity did it.im glad you saw the certificate,im getting preety good at putting things on im pleased with myself,2 years ago i couldnt turn a computer on.im so gratefull for all your doing,i have looked at the bottom of this page but cant see where i can attatch photo or certificate,is it on another area?brenda xxxx :D
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Hi Brenda,
I don't know if these are your Taylor's, but thought I would post them as possibles:
Sep qtr 1886 - Marriage Henry John Taylor to Mercy Mornington Broad
1891 census - 2 Lyndhurst St, Leicester (RG12/2524, Folio 77, Page 36)
Jane Taylor, 52, Leicester Belvoir
Henry " , 30, Son, Coachman, Northampton, Hardingstone
Mercy " 30, Dau-in-law, Stafford, Tipton
Amy ", 22, Dau, Nottingham Basford
Thomas ", 14, Son, Gloucester, Elmstree
George " , 3, Grandson, Yorks Eccleshall
Frederick " , 1 " "
1901 census - 10 Albion Hill, Leicester (RG13/3004, Folio 30, Page 12)
Henry J Taylor, Head, M, 37, Groom (Domestic), Northampton
Mercy M " , Wife, M, 39, Stafford Tipton
George H " , Son, 13, Telegraph messenger, Yorkshire Ecclesall
Frederick B " , Son, 11 " "
Amy E ", Dau, 9, Beford Totton
Jane's husband/Henry John's father is Benjamin Taylor, born in Leicester, a butler/valet.
Kath
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i dont know kath as i cant say yes or no,but the names and places dont ring any bells,hope your ok please dont tax yourself ,i have just had an hot match in genes and i have found a relative in canada,i have been trying to send her things,but its not working too well i must be doing something wrong,it was not sending what i scaned,it all came out in mawes code lol brenda xxx ;D
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well its now 2008
i have found all the taylor family thankyou.
i have found a new half cousin,granddad lived with a lady after leaving my grandmother marie to bring up 3 young boys on her own,he had 3 boys to the new lady.grandmother never divorced him so his new lady changed her name by deed poll.
i never found who arthur wonfer were he was a wittness on the marriage lines.
i have also found 2 canadian cousins from my mums side the holders of gloucester.
so im quite pleased,thankyou for all your researching for me.brenda xxx
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Hi Brenda,
I don't know if these are your Taylor's, but thought I would post them as possibles:
Sep qtr 1886 - Marriage Henry John Taylor to Mercy Mornington Broad
1891 census - 2 Lyndhurst St, Leicester (RG12/2524, Folio 77, Page 36)
Jane Taylor, 52, Leicester Belvoir
Henry " , 30, Son, Coachman, Northampton, Hardingstone
Mercy " 30, Dau-in-law, Stafford, Tipton
Amy ", 22, Dau, Nottingham Basford
Thomas ", 14, Son, Gloucester, Elmstree
George " , 3, Grandson, Yorks Eccleshall
Frederick " , 1 " "
1901 census - 10 Albion Hill, Leicester (RG13/3004, Folio 30, Page 12)
Henry J Taylor, Head, M, 37, Groom (Domestic), Northampton
Mercy M " , Wife, M, 39, Stafford Tipton
George H " , Son, 13, Telegraph messenger, Yorkshire Ecclesall
Frederick B " , Son, 11 " "
Amy E ", Dau, 9, Beford Totton
Jane's husband/Henry John's father is Benjamin Taylor, born in Leicester, a butler/valet.
Kath
yes these are mine thankyou brenda xxx