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Title: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: Laura on Tuesday 16 November 04 14:43 GMT (UK)
Hi all

I am looking for Henry William Swan as he was know as on a marriage record or William h Swann on the 1881 census he was born about 1843 in fobbong essex, I would love to know mother and father etc.

Thank you for your kind help in advance

Laura
Title: Re: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: T on Tuesday 16 November 04 14:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Laura,

Where was he living in 1881? as it might help to locate him on the earlier census's

regards,Mojo
Title: Re: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: jaq on Tuesday 16 November 04 14:54 GMT (UK)
Parish Name              Code  
Aveley         AVE
Bulphan         BLP
Chadwell St Mary       CHD
Corringham      CRR
East Tilbury      ETB
Fobbing         FBB
Grays Thurrock      GRT
Horndon-on-the-Hill      HDH
Langdon (or Laindon) Hills   LDH
Little Thurrock      LTR
Mucking         MCK
North Ockendon      NOC   
Orsett         ORS
Purfleet Barracks      PFL
South Ockendon      SOC
Stifford         STD
Stanford-le-Hope      STF
Tilbury Fort      TBF
West Tilbury      WTB
West Thurrock      WTR

1851 orsett index these are the only SWAN/ SWANN:

SWAN   CAROLINE   9   

EAST TILBURY   ESS   228   

ETB
SWAN   CHARLOTTE EMMA   4   

EAST TILBURY   ESS   228   

ETB
SWAN   EMMA   04m   GRAYS

THURRUCK   ESS   163   

GRT
SWAN   JOHN   6   GRAYS

THURRUCK   ESS   163   

GRT
SWAN   LOUISA AUGUSTA   11m   

EAST TILBURY   ESS   228   

ETB
SWAN   MARY   34   LT

BURSTEAD   ESS   228   

ETB
SWAN   RACHEL   31   

BRIGHTLINGSEA   ESS   163   

GRT
SWAN   THOMAS   35   BOWERS

GIFFORD   ESS   228   ETB
SWAN   WILLIAM   2   EAST

TILBURY   ESS   228   ETB
Title: Re: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: Laura on Tuesday 16 November 04 14:55 GMT (UK)
Hiya
 on the 1881 census he was living basildon Hall farm, with wife and children

Laura
Title: Re: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: Laura on Tuesday 16 November 04 14:57 GMT (UK)
Ok thanx Jaq
Title: Re: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: jaq on Tuesday 16 November 04 14:58 GMT (UK)
and these on the 1861 orsett:
SWAN   AGNES   2      1073   71   SOK
SWAN   ALFRED   8      1074   71   ETB
SWAN   AMELIA   44      1074   143   HDH
SWAN   CAROLINE   24      1074   123   LDH
SWAN   CHARLES   5      1074   143   HDH
SWAN   CHARLOTTE   14      1074   71   ETB
SWAN   DAVID   23      1074   151   HDH
SWAN   ELIZABETH   12      1073   27   LTR
SWAN   ELLEN   9      1073   27   LTR
SWAN   EMMA   5      1074   71   ETB
SWAN   GEORGE   55      1073   27   LTR
SWAN   GEORGE   15      1074   98   STF
SWAN   GEORGE   3      1074   71   ETB
SWAN   GEORGE P   15      1074   143   HDH
SWAN   HENRY   6   M   1074   123   LDH
SWAN   ISABELLA   5      1074   98   STF
SWAN   JAMES   10      1073   71   SOK
SWAN   JOHN   17      1073   162   GRT
SWAN   JOSHUA   26      1074   123   LDH
SWAN   MARY   42      1074   71   ETB
SWAN   MARY A   30      1073   71   SOK
SWAN   RICHARD   28      1074   22   ORS
SWAN   ROBERT P   12      1074   143   HDH
SWAN   SARAH   31      1074   98   STF
SWAN   SARAH   4      1073   71   SOK
SWAN   THOMAS   44      1074   71   ETB
SWAN   TIMOTHY   44      1074   143   HDH
SWAN   TIMOTHY   3      1074   123   LDH
SWAN   WILLIAM   37      1073   71   SOK
SWAN   WILLIAM   12      1074   71   ETB
Title: Re: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: jaq on Tuesday 16 November 04 15:02 GMT (UK)
1861 billericay[covering basildon]
SWAN   ELIZA   47      1077   5   BSL
SWAN   ELIZABETH   5      1076   73   DTW
SWAN   ELLEN   18      1076   45   GBS
SWAN   GEORGE   3      1076   73   DTW
SWAN   HANNAH   42      1076   73   DTW
SWAN   HENRY   18      1077   4   BSL
SWAN   JAMES   15      1077   5   BSL
SWAN   JAMES G   35      1076   73   DTW
SWAN   JOHN   14      1076   73   DTW
SWAN   MARY   46      1076   45   GBS
SWAN   MARY ANN   7      1076   73   DTW
SWAN   NAOMI   12      1076   45   GBS
SWAN   WILLIAM   47      1076   45   GBS
SWAN   WILLIAM   25      1076   35   BLL
Title: Re: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: jaq on Tuesday 16 November 04 17:26 GMT (UK)
this may or may not be him:
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henry swan lodger unmarried age 18 .born  basildon agri lab
living at Bac--ble [?] Hall with william stock [lodger age 42]
1077/5:
Eliza is laundress at a cottage further along the road,between the Hall, Middle Hall and the cottages.seems a large working farm,lots of different families..
shes age 47 b.south benfleet
with her is  son James age 15 agri lab b.basildon.
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1076/45:
william swan head age 47 b.great burstead
Mary wife age 46 occ Coal Dealers wife b.nevendon[?]
ellen dau age 18 unmar b.nevendon[?]
naomi dau age 12 scholar b.great burstead
Title: Re: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: Laura on Tuesday 16 November 04 18:53 GMT (UK)
Thank so much jaq, i will check these out


laura
Title: Re: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 16 November 04 20:19 GMT (UK)
Laura

Fobbing is only a small place (17 pages including all the irrelevant info on the 1841 census)

No Swan(n)'s in Fobbing in 1841, there was a Henry that died in Billericay district in 1841, could he have been the first born and your Henry followed with the added second name of William (to differ from the first born) in 1843 (big big question mark, but one loves to be a detective).

You are looking for Henry who married Jane in 1871? and you are also assuming (as he declared he was born in Fobbing) that they grew up together before they married!

"Jaq's" Henry aged 18 and a lodger is a good bet as Basildon and Fobbing could be regarded as the same place and Basildon is the more dominant name so to speak.

The odds are the parent SWAN(N)'s in 1841 live within a triangle from Brentwood in the north to Purfleet in the west to Benfleet in the east, you can't go south from Fobbing as you would be in the River Thames!

Corringham/Stanford le Hope/Basildon/Vange/Laindon/Horndon in that order are Fobbings immediate neighbours and possible best bets, they come under Billericay or Orsett.

Bryant


Title: Re: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: Laura on Tuesday 16 November 04 20:29 GMT (UK)
thanx Bryant I will try that

laura
Title: Re: Swann/swan look up please essex
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 16 November 04 20:50 GMT (UK)
Laura

I forgot to mention that Jaq's Bac--ble [?] Hall appears to be BARSTABLE HALL which is at Basildon and is mentioned in the Doomsday Book!

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this may or may not be him:
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henry swan lodger unmarried age 18 .born  basildon agri lab
living at Bac--ble [?] Hall with william stock [lodger age 42]
1077/5:
Eliza is laundress at a cottage further along the road,between the Hall, Middle Hall and the cottages.seems a large working farm,lots of different families..
shes age 47 b.south benfleet
with her is  son James age 15 agri lab b.basildon.
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Bryant