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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Staffordshire => England => Staffordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Burto on Wednesday 06 December 06 20:58 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I'm trying to find out about an ancestor who came from Bilston. What churches were around Bilston in 1816? I'm trying to find his Baptism to no avail and I live 3 hours away from Stafford so can't keep going back and forth!
Are there any records online or anyway I could do it from this distance without travelling?
Thanks.
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Hi
St Leonards, Bilston is the parich church and according to Genuki it was only church in early 19th century
Records upto 1812 online at
http://www.wolverhamptonarchives.dial.pipex.com/stleonard.htm
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hiya have a look at bilston online its a pretty good site
also check out st peters in bilston my gggg grandad
(1797) and siblings were critsened at st leonards but there parents were married at
st peters
good hunting
gigg
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hiya have a look at bilston online its a pretty good site
also check out st peters in bilston my gggg grandad
(1797) and siblings were critsened at st leonards but there parents were married at
st peters
good hunting
gigg
St Peter's is the Church also known as the Collegiate Church, in the Centre of Wolverhampton. St Leonard's was not licenced for marriages so people from Bilston seem to have married in Wolverhampton or the other surrounding townships.
Checkout FREEREG, they already have a lot of Bilston and W'ton records online.
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Thank you so much for posting all this Bilston info! It enabled me to find an ellusive marriage record: I now believe that the elusive widow Lydia CRUMMET who married John HUGHES in Tipton, Staffordshire in 1832, was the Lydia COOPER who married John CRUMPETT in Wolverhampton in 1820. Yeah! "COOPER," a new surname for me!
Now, having examined lots of marriage records over a span of years in the 1820s in Wolverhampton St. Peter's, I have a question: Every marriage record said both marriage parties were 'of this parish.' Could they have all really lived there or was the parish so recorded because it was 'the parish' for marriages for people from Bilston and other locales?
My John HUGHES' census records say he was born in Bilston. Lydia's census records say she was born in Brierly Hill. But that's all I have to go on in the quest for their early records. Thanks, again!!!
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What approx year was Lydia born?
Cati
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Cati,
In the 1841 census: she was 40-44
in the 1851 census: she was 48,
in the 1861 census: she was 60
I've been giving the most credence to the 1851 census, so I've been saying she was born about 1803, but it could certainly be closer to 1801ish.
Thank you for asking!
--Encinita
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I've had a look in the Brierley Hill baptism registers from 1801 - 1810 and can't find a baptism for a Lydia Cooper in there.
Cati
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Cati,
Thank you for looking! That was very nice of you and gives me a good start! Maybe I'll check a few of the earlier years and then move out to nearby parishes. Thanks again, and especially for such quick replies!
--Encinita
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No problem: I have a printed copy of the Brierley Hill baptisms & burials (18088 - 1812) on the bookcase next to my chair!
Cati
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Hi, I am the third great granddaughter of Lydia Cooper and John Hughes. I was stumped on the name Crummet or Crompett, but Cooper explains things. John and Lydia married July 23, 1832 in tipton, Staff. But there was a child, Matilda in 1830 in Dudley, Worcester. Was she the child of John Crumpett or John Hughes --I wonder. Never found John Hughes parents, but might be John and Mary of Bilston.
Here are my notes:
John Hughes was born 1806 in Bilston, Staffordshire. He marries Lydia Crummet born 1801, in Brierley Hill, Worcester, on July 23, 1832 in Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Christening records were also found on the Family History Library-International Genealogical Index computer records for this family.
Children of Lydia and John:
Matilda, 1 Feb. 1830 ( Matilda was born before their legal marriage in 1832)
Thomas, 10 Mar. 1833
Henry, 7 Sep. 1834
Catherine, 23 July, 1837.
John and Lydia have two children who have expired by 1841. They were Matilda born 1830 and Thomas born 1833 in Dudley, Worcester, England
The 1841 England Census
Tipton, Staffordshire
John Hughes, blacksmith of Staffordshire, England
Lydia wife of Staffordshire, England (note: it is not known why Staffordshire was reported here instead of Worcester)
Henry 6 son of Staffordshire, England (note: it is not know why Staffordshire was reported here instead of Worcester)
Catherine 3 daughter of Staffordshire, England
John 1 son of Staffordshire, England
1851 England Census
Tipton, St. Paul, Staffordshire
# 141 on Wood St.
John Hughes, blacksmith age 46 of Staffordshire, England
Lydia wife age 48
Henry son age 15 of Staffordshire, England (note: not known why Staffordshire was reported here instead of Worcester)
Catherine daughter age 13 of Staffordshire, England
John son age 11 of Staffordshire, England
Lydia daughter 9 of Staffordshire, England
Neomi daughter 4 of Staffordshire, England
In 1858 daughter, Catherine married Charles Causier. They move a short distance away in Sedgely, Staffordshire. Their son, Henry also marries in this year to Sarah Jane Nicklin and they make their home in Worcester.
John Hughes Senior is not found in the 1861 Census, nor is he listed in the England death index. It is likely however, that he has passed away because his wife Lydia states that she is a widow in 1861. Daughter, Catherine and her husband, Charles Causier are now living in Sedgely, Staffordshire
1861 England Census
Tipton, St. Paul, Staffordshire
Lydia Hughes widow born 1801 in Brierley Hill, Worcestershire
John son born 1841 in Tipton, Staffordshire
Lydia daughter born 1844 in Tipton, Staffordshire
Naomi daughter born 1847 in Tipton, Staffordshire
Mrs. Lydia Hughes the widow dies in 1862 in Dudley, Staffordshire.
1871 Daughter, Catherine and her husband are now living in Castleford, Yorkshire--remaining in this place until 1881, when they moved to America, settling in Bay View, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Son, Henry and his wife Sarah remain in Worcester with their family.
Daughter, Naomi married Joshua Austin in 1874, Dudley, Staffordshire. They have three children but it is believed that two died young.
John Hughes parents might be John and Mary of Bilston, Staffordshire, England but not sure
Research of Sue Rynders Kopec
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But has anyone found who Lydia Cooper's parents were?
Jackie