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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: scarlettkate on Monday 04 December 06 21:15 GMT (UK)
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H there,
I'm interested in contacting anyone who has information regarding/family connections to the white fisherman and harbour pilots of Footdee, Aberdeen from 1800 - present. My father's family lived in North Square, Footdee for over a century.
My research goes back to Anthony (b.1817) and Jessie Baxter (b. 1821 nee Allan) who lived at 17 North Square, and whose son John (b.1847) married Elizabeth Fowler (b.1847), who lived with her parents Alexander and Elizabeth (nee Robertson) at 15 North Square. Anthony is registered as a white fisher in the 1851 and 61 census' and as a harbour pilot on his son's wedding certificate. Alexander Fowler was also a harbour pilot in Footdee.
John and Elizabeth's son, William Baxter (b. 1879) married Margaret Allan (b. 1874) in 1904. Margaret's parents were Andrew (b.1836) and Margaret Allan (b. 1839, nee Allan - strange!) Andrew's parents were Andrew (b.1801) and Agnes Allen (b.1809, nee Caie) and Margaret's were Andrew (b.1810) and Ann Allan (b.1803, nee Morrice)
All these generations lived at South Square or North Square in Footdee, and worked either as white fishers or as harbou pilots.
Just wanted to see if anyone else was researching these families or those with the names Guyan or Main, as these families appear to have lived alongside mine for generations.
Kate
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Hi Kate
My family are descended from Anthony Baxter's brother, John, who married Agnes Morrice in 1840.
I discovered a slightly spooky coincidence when researching my strand of the family. Anthony's son, also called Anthony, died from smallpox on the 23 April 1872. His cousin Jane (John's daughter) also died from smallpox ... on the same day!
The fisher families of Footdee make a fascinating study - they are quite self contained, follow similar professions through each generation, and intermarry to such a degree that teasing out the individual families is quite a challenge.
I have quite a number of BMD and census records I'd be happy to share with you. I'll send you a PM with details. I share many of the same surnames in my tree so I'm sure we interconnect in other ways too!
In the meantime, the MI inscription booklet for St Clement's churchyard is invaluable for Fittie families. It's available from www.anesfhs.org.uk.
Also www.geocities.com/SoHo/Workshop/2299/pilots.html has listings of Aberdeen Harbour pilots with the same family names appearing year after year.
Cheers
Gary
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good morning gary, big christmas welcome to rootschat
Joe
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Thanks for the welcome joebhoy!
I only joined yesterday but I've already found two connections to my family trees.
I live in Aberdeenshire so I hope I can help out with some local knowledge now and again.
Cheers
Gary
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Thanks very much for your post Gary!
I'll contact you by email very shortly as I'm very interested to see what information you may have. That strange co-incidence is indeed very spooky!
Merry Xmas and a happy new year,
Kate
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I did some research for a friend whose gran's brother Alexr McMillan married a Jessie Wyness in 1923. She was desc from Baxters/Guyans and I've got a "fair few" certs etc!
I've got the St Clements MI booklet and also St Clements Parish booklet by Rosemary Baxter which gives a bit of detail about The Squares.
I'm likely not to be online much over next few days but happy to share what I've found out. :)
Christine
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Anthony's son, also called Anthony, died from smallpox on the 23 April 1872. His cousin Jane (John's daughter) also died from smallpox ... on the same day
Gary, Welcome to Rootschat :) I wondered if you've seen the entry for Anthony's death at the Smallpox Hospital in Aberdeen. Click on 1872 then go to page 10
http://www.scan.org.uk/researchrtools/smallpox.htm
Elaine
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Hi Elaine
Yes, I'd seen that site. I love the 'Result' column - Cured or Dead!
It's a pity that SCAN site hasn't developed it's online records, but I guess it's role is to be a catalogue of what's held elsewhere.
Happy Hogmanay
Gary
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Hello:
This is my first time, and I am not certain I am even in the correct area.
I am looking for some information for the following people:
John Maynard King, Born in Scotland in 1853 & his Wife Mildred Captola Hadlock, Born 1859. I know that they had a son whose name was John Maynard King, also. He was born 01-16-1887. Any information about either of them would be helpful.
Thanks.
natty_mich AKA Jeff
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Hi Jeff and a warm Hogmanay welcome to Rootschat
You will get a better response to your query if you start a new thread with 'John Maynard King' as the subject.
If you are unsure of which county he's from, go to the Scotland General board and click new topic. (maybe one of our nice moderators will move the post for you!)
I've only been here a short while and have already had lots of useful help - hope you find the same.
Regards
Gary
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H there,
I'm interested in contacting anyone who has information regarding/family connections to the white fisherman and harbour pilots of Footdee, Aberdeen from 1800 - present. My father's family lived in North Square, Footdee for over a century.
My research goes back to Anthony (b.1817) and Jessie Baxter (b. 1821 nee Allan) who lived at 17 North Square, and whose son John (b.1847) married Elizabeth Fowler (b.1847), who lived with her parents Alexander and Elizabeth (nee Robertson) at 15 North Square. Anthony is registered as a white fisher in the 1851 and 61 census' and as a harbour pilot on his son's wedding certificate. Alexander Fowler was also a harbour pilot in Footdee.
John and Elizabeth's son, William Baxter (b. 1879) married Margaret Allan (b. 1874) in 1904. Margaret's parents were Andrew (b.1836) and Margaret Allan (b. 1839, nee Allan - strange!) Andrew's parents were Andrew (b.1801) and Agnes Allen (b.1809, nee Caie) and Margaret's were Andrew (b.1810) and Ann Allan (b.1803, nee Morrice)
All these generations lived at South Square or North Square in Footdee, and worked either as white fishers or as harbou pilots.
Just wanted to see if anyone else was researching these families or those with the names Guyan or Main, as these families appear to have lived alongside mine for generations.
Kate
Hi Scarlettkate,
My 2 x Great Grandfather James Ritchie aged 22 yrs from Prestonpans East Lothian, married Isabella Fowler , 20 from 15 South Square, Footdee. Her father was Alexander, a pilot and mother was deceased by date of marriage, Isabella Robertson. The witnesses were John Allan and William Fowler. I have the Marriage certificate from SP, and will send you a copy. Quite a few similarities, except Alexanders wife, Elizabth against Isabella, could be different generations or relatives.
Tom
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Hi Scarlettkate,
Problem solved with different names of Alexander's wives, he had 2.
His first wife Isabella died 29 Oct 1854 he then married Elizabeth Allan on 22 Mar 1856. He had 6 children to Isabella and 5 to Elizabeth, he was married to Elizabeth at 15 South Square, Footdee.
Tom
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Hi Kate,
I am researching my MAIN family line and have a possible marriage between John Main and Ann Guyan married 1820. They are listed as being at North Square.
regards
KBG
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Hi Kate,
On the LDS site, the marriage was on 19 July 1820, at Saint Nicholas Blotter And Scroll, Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland. The names were John Main and Ann Guyon, whose father was Alexander Guyon. They had 5 of a family christened at St Nicholas, from 1821 to 1832.
I have found no details of North Square, unfortunately.
Tom
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H there,
I'm interested in contacting anyone who has information regarding/family connections to the white fisherman and harbour pilots of Footdee, Aberdeen from 1800 - present. My father's family lived in North Square, Footdee for over a century.
My research goes back to Anthony (b.1817) and Jessie Baxter (b. 1821 nee Allan) who lived at 17 North Square, and whose son John (b.1847) married Elizabeth Fowler (b.1847), who lived with her parents Alexander and Elizabeth (nee Robertson) at 15 North Square. Anthony is registered as a white fisher in the 1851 and 61 census' and as a harbour pilot on his son's wedding certificate. Alexander Fowler was also a harbour pilot in Footdee.
John and Elizabeth's son, William Baxter (b. 1879) married Margaret Allan (b. 1874) in 1904. Margaret's parents were Andrew (b.1836) and Margaret Allan (b. 1839, nee Allan - strange!) Andrew's parents were Andrew (b.1801) and Agnes Allen (b.1809, nee Caie) and Margaret's were Andrew (b.1810) and Ann Allan (b.1803, nee Morrice)
All these generations lived at South Square or North Square in Footdee, and worked either as white fishers or as harbou pilots.
Just wanted to see if anyone else was researching these families or those with the names Guyan or Main, as these families appear to have lived alongside mine for generations.
Kate
Hi Kate
I can see it's a while since you posted this but I've just started researching my family and whilst googling Footdee I found your qstn - I think we may have some links!!!
my Gt. Gt. Gt. grandma was Jessie Baxter (who married Edward Forbes) Jessies parents were Janet Caie & Alexander Baxter who married in 1838. On the marriage notes it says Jessies father John Caie and Alexander Baxter were Harbour pilots at Footdee
what do you think?!
Vicki
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my Gt. Gt. Gt. grandma was Jessie Baxter (who married Edward Forbes) Jessies parents were Janet Caie & Alexander Baxter who married in 1838. On the marriage notes it says Jessies father John Caie and Alexander Baxter were Harbour pilots at Footdee
forgot to say - Edward Forbes lived at 12 South Sq when he married Jessie Baxter in 1867 and it says his father William Forbes (deceased) was a whitefisher.
Jessie Baxter lived at 1 Pilot Square and her father Alexander was a harbour pilot
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Hi there,
I have Main and Guyan in my family tree, Whitefishers and living at North Square.
Would be great to hear from you
Bumble :-)
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Hi, I was just doing a bit of googling while having lunch and came across this thread.
My wife's family descends from John Slater Walker of Footdee who immigrated to Canada around 1900. He was born at 1 North Pier Road. There are a number of Guyans in the family tree, and some Mains as well (she is also descended from the Mains from Glasgow).
I'm happy to share what I have.
marc
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My grandmother Ina Paterson nee Lee came from Pilot Square. I remember her being visited in Torry where she lived till her death by an Andra Morrice who came from one of the squares i take it he would be related to the Andrew Morrice in the o.p
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Hi All! I have just stumbled across this site whilst googling Fittie as I try to piece together my family tree - I'm so glad to find so many of you who may be able to help!
My direct line is Walker, but also have the names Guyan, Masson, Baxter, Caie and a few other mixed in there, but all Harbour Pilots/whitefisher etc from Pilot Sq, North/South Sq etc.
I would love to hear from anyone who has info on these families and the Fittie area...I find it all v intriguing!!
:)
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Hi All! I have just stumbled across this site whilst googling Fittie as I try to piece together my family tree - I'm so glad to find so many of you who may be able to help!
My direct line is Walker, but also have the names Guyan, Masson, Baxter, Caie and a few other mixed in there, but all Harbour Pilots/whitefisher etc from Pilot Sq, North/South Sq etc.
I would love to hear from anyone who has info on these families and the Fittie area...I find it all v intriguing!!
:)
Hi zephyrcat,
Just the five surnames you mention represent about a third of all families in Fittee from 1841 to 1901, the Baxters being the largest in number throughout the period. Since well over 600 people lived in the Squares this equates to quite a few possibilities. Some families occur at the same address for generations, although there was a bit of movement within the squares and with marriages between members of different families.
It certainly is an interesting community!
Jimmy
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BumblebeeBev and I have been working together for some time trying to unravel our Ancestors in Fittie.
We have Main, Guyan, Baxter and Morrice. As many of the families seem to marry within the Squares and use the same family names over and over as we are sure many of you have already found it is increasingly difficult to work out who belongs to who.
Would any of you be interested in joining us in trying to unravel it all – pull everything we have together and see if we can make sense of them all?
We have created a group on facebook and will be posting out certs etc and hope you will join in.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fittie-Folk-Aberdeen/184673174901100
Regards
KBG & Bumblebee Bev
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A telescope either belonging to or made by a Caie from Fittie turned up in an auction I was at recently. I may have a note of the address in the inscription somewhere, I'll check later if anyone's interested.
S_L
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Hello all. I'm Kevin Baxter. My family hale from 2 South Square, where they lived until the 1970's. My Grandma and Grandad, were Harriet (nee Stephen) and David (trawler skipper). My Dad, William (Billy), now 76, was a ship's joiner, at Hall Russell's. Also have Mackie and McRobb in our recent family tree. To my knowledge, there are now lots of little and not so little Baxters', to keep the heritage going. I know my cousins each have children, while I'm lucky enough to have three bonnie loon's and quines, as nieces and nephews, Harriet (13), William (9) and Olivia (5).
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Welcome Kevin,
There was an Alexander Baxter b c. 1773 at 2 South Square in the 1851 census & Baxters at the same address at least until 1901.
best
Jimmy
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Hi Jimmy,
Thanks for the swift response and info.
My dad will be chuffed and amazed to hear that the lineage
at 2 South Square goes back to 1770.
I know my Grandma, Harriet Baxter (nee Stephen) lived there until 1977
Will need to research some of the older census reports,
to fill in the gaps. Got back to 1821 with one Baxter family tree branch.