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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: tab on Thursday 30 November 06 23:09 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I am looking for Alexander Hertel b1836 + wife Emily Martha b1844 they were wed 1868 Poplar, he died Croyden 1878. Children are Emily b1872 Stepney, Susan b1873 Stepney, Charles 1872 Penge and Maud 1877 Penge. Emily Martha wed Henry Davison Young 1885, have found both parts of family 1891 census, but can not locate them 1871 or 1881 Census. thanks Terry
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Hi Terry,
Are you sure of birth years for children?
Emily 1872 Stepney & Charles 1872 Penge?
Nanny Jan
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sorry Charles 1876 Pengre not 1872, I have found them 1881 census under namer Hertil living at 35 Knowle Road Lambeth still need 1871 census info. thanks Terry
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I've found a Susan Hertel b abt 1874 on 1881 census in an "Asylum for Fatherless Children", Reedham, Croydon.
Could this be your Susan?
Nanny Jan
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Hi, yes that is my Susan thanks Terry
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1881 census RG11 619 folio 126
35 Knowle Road Lambeth
Emily Hertel 34 Head Widow Housekeeper Wapping Middlesex
Martha Brewer 65 Mother Widow Windsor Berkshire
Emily Hertel 8 Daughter Stepney Middlesex
Charlotte Hertel 6 Daughter Penge Surrey
Alexander Hertel 5 Son Penge Surrey
Maud Hertel 3 Daughter Penge Surrey
Charles W. Clark 28 Boarder Germany
Regards
Valda
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I think I've found Emily and Martha on the 1871:
15 Belgrave St, Stepney
RG10/547 f.134 p.10
Martha (looks rather like 'Matha' on the original image, the handwriting is bad) Br??? (could well be 'Brewer'), 55, house proprietor, born Windsor Berks
Emily Hurtell, 26, daughter, married, sailor's wife, b. Wapping
if Alexander was away at sea he may have been missed off the census.
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Thank you thank you, yes it is Martha Brewer, thanks for all the help everyone
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Have info about Hertel and Brewer family
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Hello everyone - My father was George Hertel Peters, whose mother Maud Peters nee Hertel, daughter of Emily Martha Hertel nee Brewer who was married to Alexander Carl Theodor Leopold Hertel 1835-1878 a Prussian mariner who came to England because of Bismark's policies. He sailed a Clipper, possibly for the East India Company, to Australia and the Far East before his vessel, The Minnie, was in collision and foundered on 23 May 1871. All were landed at Falmouth. The Plimsoll Line author G Hertel Peters.
Emily Martha Brewer nee Clark was married to Richard Benjamin Brewer 1809-1854 who came from Cornwall, where there are still many descendants. Do I know you Cornish Bill? JP
When Captain Hertel died shortly after my grandmother, Maud Hertel was born, the children did eventually go to the Asylum for Fatherless children at Reedham in Surrey. Emily Martha Hertel then married again Henry Davison Young and had another son (Harry?).
There are very many artifacts still in existence.
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I write on behalf of the Henley-on-Thames Archaeological and Historical Group.
Your father was minister at the Henley-on-Thames Congregational Church from 1945 to 1950. In 1948 he wrote a booklet about Humphrey Gainsborough, engineer and inventor, also minister at that church 1748-1776. We have a copy of the booklet in our archive and wish to make it more readily available to our members on our website:
http://www.henley-on-thamesarchaeologicalandhistoricalgroup.org.uk/index.php (http://www.henley-on-thamesarchaeologicalandhistoricalgroup.org.uk/index.php)
We should be most grateful for permission to do so.
Will you please give us this permission?
Best wishes
Graham
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Hello Graham
Thank you very much for your surprise contact concerning my late father - Rev George Hertel Peters!! I have spoken with your Chairman Valarie Alasia today and confirm my brother and I are more than willing for you to place my father's book on Humphrey Gainsborough on top your website.
Do contact me direct if there is anything further you would like to discuss.
Best wishes.
Jilly Peters