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Title: 1871/1861/1851 Look up Please - HIRONS
Post by: lady_genealogy on Thursday 30 November 06 21:33 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
         Could someone please give me a Hand
i`m looking for the following people don't have much to go on with these family members  :( i hope theres enough to go on

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George Father
William Hirons
Birth unknown date and where
 
Ann`s father
Joseph Wagstaff
about 1798

George and Ann have one child i know about Joseph William Hirons
24 Feb 1850 my GGGGREAT GRAMP

Thanks to all that Helps in what ever way poss

Best Regards
Julie AKA Lady_G
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 21:41 GMT (UK)
1871
Cottage near Newnham Hall, Newnham, Northamptonshire
George Hirons Head M 56 Toll Taker Byfield Northamptonshire
Ann Wife M 52 Newnham "
John Son Unm 18 Boot & Shoemaker " "
RG10/ 1490; Folio: 75; Page: 2
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 21:45 GMT (UK)
1861 Newnham, Northamptonshire
George Irons Head M 45 Labourer Byfield Northamptonshire
Ann Wife M 43 Newnham "
Samuel Son Un 17 " "
Joseph William Son Un 11 " "
John Son Un 3? " " (could be an 8 possibly)
RG9/ 942; Folio: 78; Page: 1
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: lady_genealogy on Thursday 30 November 06 21:48 GMT (UK)
1871
Cottage near Newnham Hall, Newnham, Northamptonshire
George Hirons Head M 56 Toll Taker Byfield Northamptonshire
Ann Wife M 52 Newnham "
John Son Unm 18 Boot & Shoemaker " "
RG10/ 1490; Folio: 75; Page: 2

Wonder where Joseph William was in 1971 ?

Thanks for your help again MaryA  ;D :-*

Julie
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 21:54 GMT (UK)
1851 Newnham, Northamptonshire
George Irons Head M 35 Labourer Northamptonshire Byfield
Ann Wife M 32                                       " Newnham
Samuel Son 7 " "
George Son 4 " "
Joseph William Son 1 " "
HO107/1741; Folio: 160; Page: 8

The entry for this surname has been transcribed as "Trans" and an amendment has been submitted to Ancestry with the suggested name of "Irons".  This amendment is quite correct since the handwritten entry does indeed read Irons, but what it means is that somebody else has seen this in the past and noticed the error.  It could be that somebody else is searching this surname, alternatively it could just be that in searching for another name they looked at it, assuming that it couldn't be Trans and out of the goodness of their heart submitted the amendment.

I did check out what had been put as a reason has to be entered but they have merely put "just wrong".  The username of the person on Ancestry is johnpartridge10 but they have not completed any details of their profile nor entered any research interests, however, I wouldn't think this is unusual.

This is not really of any help to you except to keep in mind the possibility that somebody else is researching the same name.
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 21:55 GMT (UK)


Wonder where Joseph William was in 1971 ?

At 21 years old he could well be married and elsewhere. Patience!
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: johnP-bedford on Thursday 30 November 06 22:00 GMT (UK)
from 1861 living in Newnham, Northamptonshire

RG9/942; Folio: 80; Page: 5

Joseph Wagstaff, head, age 63, born Newnham ; Labourer
Elizabeth Wagstaff, wife, age 67, born Brampton

next door is
James Irons, head, age 23, born Maidfor, Northants ; Shepard
Susannah Irons, wife, age 31, born Newnham

regards John
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 22:04 GMT (UK)
Looking for George in 1841, they may not yet be married, but I suspect you know the date since you know his father's name.

I have found this family and although it's not the right George, I assume they must be related somehow

Elizabeth not born in County, all others were born in Northamptonshire

Byfield, Northamptonshire
William Hirons 35 Ag Lab
Elizabeth 30
Joseph 15
Maryann 14
Samuel 12
George 10
Sarah 8
Elizabeth 6
William 2
HO107/795/5 5/3

I think this one is yours
All born in County except Ann
Byfield, Northamptonshire
Ann Hiorns 65
Samuel 35 Ag Lab
George 25 Ag Lab
James 20 Ag Lab
HO107/795/5 11/15
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: johnP-bedford on Thursday 30 November 06 22:04 GMT (UK)
well MaryA , I must have delved into this family name before,

I posted the above reply before I read your text - coincidence !
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 22:06 GMT (UK)
Hi John, we meet again.  Is that your entry on Ancestry then? I assume you haven't been researching the Hirons for yourself ........ that would be too great a coincidence wouldn't it!

Best wishes
Mary
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 22:08 GMT (UK)
Has your Joseph married a Rebecca? 
All born Newnham
1871 Cottage in between the Grocers Shop and the New Inn, Newnham, Northamptonshire
Joseph Hirons Head M 21 Ag Lab
Rebecca Wife M 23 Dress-Maker
Mary A daur 1
//
Helen Holmes Lodger Un 21 School Mistress Kensington London
RG10/ 1490; Folio: 81; Page: 13
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: johnP-bedford on Thursday 30 November 06 22:10 GMT (UK)
& from 1871 still living in Newnham

RG10/1490; Folio: 77; Page: 6

Elizabeth Wagstaff, widow, age 76, born Church Brampton

living next door in 'Cottage' is

Susannah Irons, widow, age 42, born Newnham ; Ag Lab Widow
Pamela Irons age 9
Mary Irons age 7
James W Irons age 4
Thomas Irons age 2

all children born Newnham , Northants
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 22:10 GMT (UK)
Joseph William Hirons married Rebecca Lucas December qtr 1869 Daventry, Northamptonshire 3b 235.
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: Cal241 on Thursday 30 November 06 22:18 GMT (UK)
1841

there is  George Irons aged 26 Shoe maker Journey man
Living at Brookend Daventry

HO107/0798

Cal  8)
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 22:19 GMT (UK)
1891 All born Newnham
Newnham next door to the New Inn, Northamptonshire
Joseph Hirons Head M 41 Agricultural Laborer
Rebecca Wife M 42 Dressmaker
Mary A daur S 21 General Servant (Domestic)
Frederick W Son 11 Scholar
Herbert Son 9
Annie daur 3
RG12/ 1204; Folio 69; Page 6

1901 all born Newnham, Northants
Joseph W Hirons Head M 51 Road Labourer
Rebecca Wife M 53 Laundress at home
Mary A daur S 31 " "
Herbert W Son S 19 Labourer on Farm
Ann daur S 13
Lily A Lucas Visitor S 19 General S (Domestic)
Emily R Mills G.Daughter S 4
RG13/1432; Folio: 64; Page: 10

Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 22:22 GMT (UK)
Maria Elizabeth Hirons married William Thomas Mills December qtr 1895 Daventry, Northamptonshire 3b 255
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: johnP-bedford on Thursday 30 November 06 22:24 GMT (UK)
am I having a spot of deja-vu

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,137296.msg617470.html#msg617470
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: lady_genealogy on Thursday 30 November 06 22:25 GMT (UK)
Has your Joseph married a Rebecca? 
All born Newnham
1871 Cottage in between the Grocers Shop and the New Inn, Newnham, Northamptonshire
Joseph Hirons Head M 21 Ag Lab
Rebecca Wife M 23 Dress-Maker
Mary A daur 1
//
Helen Holmes Lodger Un 21 School Mistress Kensington London
RG10/ 1490; Folio: 81; Page: 13

Yes MaryA they was
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: lady_genealogy on Thursday 30 November 06 22:29 GMT (UK)
1891 All born Newnham
Newnham next door to the New Inn, Northamptonshire
Joseph Hirons Head M 41 Agricultural Laborer
Rebecca Wife M 42 Dressmaker
Mary A daur S 21 General Servant (Domestic)
Frederick W Son 11 Scholar
Herbert Son 9
Annie daur 3
RG12/ 1204; Folio 69; Page 6

1901 all born Newnham, Northants
Joseph W Hirons Head M 51 Road Labourer
Rebecca Wife M 53 Laundress at home
Mary A daur S 31 " "
Herbert W Son S 19 Labourer on Farm
Ann daur S 13
Lily A Lucas Visitor S 19 General S (Domestic)
Emily R Mills G.Daughter S 4
RG13/1432; Folio: 64; Page: 10



WOW THANKS BONUS LOOK UP  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Julie
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 22:30 GMT (UK)
am I having a spot of deja-vu

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,137296.msg617470.html#msg617470

Uh Oh!
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: lady_genealogy on Thursday 30 November 06 22:31 GMT (UK)
am I having a spot of deja-vu

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,137296.msg617470.html#msg617470

 :-\ :-X opps dont i feel like a Tw@t  :-\ :-\

I thought i coved old posts
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: seahall on Thursday 30 November 06 22:34 GMT (UK)
Hi John

Just got home and saw the post and thought the same as you. LOL.

Cheers Sandy
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: johnP-bedford on Thursday 30 November 06 22:36 GMT (UK)
LadyG - not a problem - when MaryA said I had changed an Irons name mistranscription - I know I haven't any old Irons in my tree - so I went and searched for the name is all my postings - & there you were  ;) ;)

keep searching -  :D regards John   * Hi Sandy  :)
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: lady_genealogy on Thursday 30 November 06 22:38 GMT (UK)
But Mary has given me some new info that i dont have

SO THANKS MARY  ;D
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: seahall on Thursday 30 November 06 22:56 GMT (UK)
Hi John

Nice to see you about.  :)

Glad Lady G has gained some more information as every bit more helps to expand our trees.

Sandy
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 30 November 06 23:11 GMT (UK)
I know I haven't any old Irons in my tree

Can't call you Lonnie Donegan then John  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: lornadoone on Friday 15 December 06 22:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Lady G
      Rebecca Lucas was the sister of my Gt Grandmother Emily Lucas b.1858 in Newnham.I have a lot of info on the family if you are interested.Are you related to Pat Sarahs by any chance?
                                 Regards
                                        Jenny
Title: Re: 1871 1861 1851 look up Please
Post by: lady_genealogy on Monday 18 December 06 08:39 GMT (UK)
hi Jenny
  Pat Sarahs is my mum  :D

i`ve take over the roll of her side as shes been busy working......... plus i`ve hit a few walls on my dads side so i`ve put it to one side   ::)

how ever i`m still waiting for her to sort me out all her findings .............

may get them in the new year   ;D lol

But any new info is always greatfully received

Julie aka Lady_G