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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Somerset Lookup Requests => Somerset => England => Somerset Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: kenelms on Monday 27 November 06 16:38 GMT (UK)
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I am searching for my late wife's grandmother born in SOMERSET in 1894. She was HILDA MABEL HINES and lived in the WELLS area, possibly near Glastonbury. She married William James Owen at WELLS [Glastonbury]/Street in 1915. Any 1891 and 1901 census information would be most welcome.
Thankyou
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I can see her birth registration (Sep 1894) Wells, but I cannot find her at all in 1901.
I've even looked at other Hines birth registrations +/- a few years to look for siblings, but can't spot anything that looks like a likely family for her.
Do you have the 1915 marriage certificate to provide anything like witness/father's details?
Pauline
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Possible for consideration;
Mabel Hain, 6y, b Potters Hill, Somerset living Bristol, Daughter of Luke & Florence.
I've no idea where Potters hill may be :-[
Pauline
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I have found the marriage certificate of Hilda Mabel Hines and from it her father is shown as John Sweet who was a shoemaker in Glastonbury or lived there at Station road. I was hoping something would show up in the census of 1891 and 1901. I know her aunts were Sweet. Alice,Hetty[Henrihetta].
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2 Hunts Buildings, Glastonbury
RG13/2318 Folio 20 Page 4
John Sweet 53 Journeyman Shoemaker Somerton?
Jane 37 Chard
Harry 15 General Labourer Bristol
Winnifred 9 Street
John G 7 Glastonbury
Hilda M 6 Somerset Burleigh?
Dorothy A 5 Somerset Burleigh?
Oliver E G 2 Twins Glastonbury
Olive L 2 Glastonbury
Regards
Catherine :)
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Marriage?
John Sweet June 1897 Wells Vol 5c Page 891
Brides - Jane Hines or Mary Ann Chivers
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The marriage information does look good as does the Hilda M Sweet amongst the Sweet family as a 6 yearold. Jane Sweet [formerly Hines] does tie it together. But why the Hines name was put into the marriage certificate of Hilda Mabel Hines and William James Owen leaves me a bit baffled. My late wife was surprised when I told her that the SWEET name was not on the certificate. Possibly the bride was just too nervous on the day. No wonder I have been confused in my searches. Thankyou for your time and efforts.
Regards
Ken
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Heres Jane in 1891 -
RG12/1916 Folio 121 Page 31
Mead?, Street, Somerset
Jane Hines married 25 Trimmer in a Boot? Manufactory? Somerset Chard
Henry son 5 Bristol St Pauls
so looks like her second marriage and Hilda Mabel took her stepfathers name??
Regards
Catherine
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Thankyou Catherine. Do you have more people on the 1891-an husband etc? The difficulty is tracing Jane's maiden name. But many thanks for your splended help.
Regards, KEN
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No other people are listed for the household unfortunately, so maybe her husband was working away? unless she was fibbing about being married..... her second marriage certificate should give her maiden name though, or a birth certificate of one of her children.....
Winifred Hines December 1891 Wells Vol 5c Page 483
(looks like she could have been a twin because there is also a birth registration with the same references for a Wilfred Hines, and a death reference - December 1891 age 0 Wells Vol 5c Page 395)
Hilda Mabel Hines September 1894 Wells Vol 5c Page 463
Dorothy Alice Hines December 1895 Wells Vol 5c Page 448
John George Hines March 1893 Wells Vol 5c Page 476
Regards
Catherine :)
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Once again thankyou Catherine. Yes, the jigsaw is fitting nicely together. The births information and the name Dorothy Alice does fit in as my late mother in law was Dorothy Margaret and I knew she referred to her old Aunt Alice. There was Aunt Hetty also. They were at my wedding. I had visited them at Glastonbury in the 60's . The name Sweet had escaped me. But the help on this ROOTSCHAT WEBSITE has been terrific and so,so helpful.
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Hi Kenelms,
John Sweet was my great, great grandfather via his first wife Sarah Ann Childs. He was born in Hurcott, just north east of Somerton and was somewhat prodigious. Sarah Ann gave him ten children and Jane Davis eleven. There are also three more that fall in the period after Jane's split from Henry Hines, which may also be his. If you e-mail me privately e-mail address removed to prevent spamming and other abuse. please use the personal message system for exchanging e-mail addresses. I'll happily share all the information that I have on both the Hines family and the Sweet family. You may also be able to fill in some of the gaps in my information.
Regards,
Grahame.
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Yes, John Sweet was quite a family man as you suggest. The links to Jane Davis after the loss of his first wife is spectulative. Hilda Mabel Hines is the one that I am following as she does not have Henry HINES on the birth certificate only her mother Jane Hines[nee Davis]. Why they separated is not known and when. Also when did Jane Hines and John Sweet first meet up. Was it when she was in the shoe factory at Street or when she lived --ALONE[ or still married] lived near John Street--same road. Jane also did housework for John.
How do you see things from your family line.