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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ross & Cromarty => Topic started by: Tabatha on Monday 27 November 06 00:14 GMT (UK)
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Cd someone please do a lookup on the 1871 for Ann Cross
73 yrs old b. 1798.
Need household, all info please
Thanks much!
Tabatha
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Hi Tabatha
We would need more information & depending on where she was (if still alive?) the area might or might not be covered by freecen.
Modified: not found in Ross and Cromarty on freecen: http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
You can do a free search on Scotland's People (but need to register first) and then the site is pay-per-view to see the results. Even the search can narrow down the area in which to look.
kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Hi, Arranroots - I did check Scotland's People.
There is one Ann Cross. I'm presuming she's alive - she was in earlier census.
Ross and Cromarty is the county (lived there forever) - I put that in the subject line. She was in Urquhart but her husband died so she may have moved but still R&C.
Was hoping someone wouldn't mind checking that site - but I appreciate your response.
By the way I know of a KEARNEY. Ian with brother, Harry, from Scotland. Interesting story.
Tabatha
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Well, there are sometimes people with extra credits (you should have asked last week, when I had some!)
My KEARNEYS were in Neath & Dublin but none of them were born! At least not as far as I have found!!
;)
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One of these Kearneys wasn't born either. They say he crawled out from under a rock!
Thks for the response - next time I'll know to catch you earlier!!!
Tabatha.
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Hi Tabatha,
No Ann on the 1871 census, in R & C.
Only 2 anywhere, age 70 Cadder (Eastern) Lanark. Age 71 Paisley Middle and Low Parishes Renfrew.
You have 2 choices for death. I think it's the first one.
1865 Cross Ann Mother's name Rose Mckenzie F 68 Urquhart and Logie Wester.
1869 Cross Annabella F 72 same area.
If it's not one of these nothing else is available.
Thats my credit gone for now.
Jamjar
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Hey, Jamjar - thanks for checking I appreciate it.
I do believe you are right.
She was 63 in 1861 and it fits. The location is right too!
Her maiden name was Ann Rose.
Now you've told me her mother's name I'm wondering if Rose was her middle name and not her surname!!!!!
I'm going to make use of that death date until something
shows me I'm wrong. I have an Annabelle or two showing up in other families so I can use that death date also! Thanks much!!
Tabatha
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I like to be able to help Tabitha. What's a few pence to make someone happy.
I'm not sure why finding records of dead people make us happy, but I remember the very first time I found a record was at St Catherine's House, in London. I squealed and a whole lot of folk said congratulations and chatted with me.
Yes, I bet her middle name was Rose.
You can always post things you want looked up. When I have spare credit I look through things on the board and try to find them.
Take care,
Jamjar
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Hi Tabatha
I see you posted this quite a while ago but thought it was worth a shot. I believe Roderick Cross, husband of Anne Rose, might have been a brother of my ancestor Alexander Cross, who was a witness at the marriage of Roderick and Anne's daughter Isabella. Anne Rose was indeed a Rose, and she was the daughter of Alexander Rose and Isabella Mackenzie. I'd be curious to hear if you know any further information on the Crosses and their descendants. Alexander Cross was the son of William and Anne Cross, born probably in Dingwall (near Kiltearn) in 1797, and later moved to Canada.
Cheers
Arie
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Hi, Arie - I'm VERY excited at your message. I'd about given up hope. I have not done much on my genealogy in over a year due to one dead end after another on all lines.
I will have to get my research cap on and dive into this again. It's very confusing because of Scottish families having similar names.
Can u send me documentation or tell me where to go to get the evidence that you have connecting Roderick and his daughter, Isabella to her husband (I did not know if or who she married)
Nor did I know parents of Anne Rose. I had a question mark by a Rose McKenzie as being mother of Anne Rose and I got that only from information given by Jamjar (below on this site). Found no proof and no father so I'm excited that you've given me two names. How did you find them??
I do not belong to Scotlands People because I haven't had time to do this and didn't want to pay until I had time.
I have tried diligently to try to find the parents of Roderick Cross and do have
his death record and something that showed his father as being THOMAS and
mother being Rebecca McLennan but can't find where Thomas came from. Do you have that information? There was a Thomas in the Glasgow group of Crosses which are extensive so I wondered if my family of Crosses came originally from Lanark area around Glasgow. Maybe we can help ea. other -
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Hi Tabatha
Well our Crosses are very likely related, although perhaps not brothers. This branch of Crosses was from Easter Ross and moved to Aberdeen. What I have on Isabella Anne Cross is from the General Register Office for Scotland (I'm from Canada but live in Edinburgh). She married William Fraser, blacksmith, on 31 Dec 1840 in Aberdeen. Alexander and William Cross (who are both from my branch of Crosses) were witnesses to her marriage. I don't have any information as yet on any descendants.
As for the parents of Anne Rose, that was courtesy of Vickie Grant (you can see her post that I replied to here, http://highlandfamilyhistorysociety.org/HFHSQueriesIndex1.htm).
I haven't come across a Thomas Cross and Rebecca MacLennan yet. My Alexander and William Cross were sons of William and Anne Cross. I had wondered if Roderick was their brother because like them, he named his first son William and his second daughter Anne (it was a Scottish custom to name the first son and second daughter after the father's parents and the second son and first daughter after the mother's - you'll notice that Anne's second son is Alexander and first daughter Isabella which seems to confirm the parents' names). My ancestor Alexander Cross was born 1797 in Dingwall, Ross-shire and moved to Canada. His brother William was born 1806 and died 3 Feb 1884 in Aberdeen, and married Christian or Christina Ross.
As for the Lanarkshire connection, I had initially wondered the same thing as you but I think there is no connection. I suspect that most of the Crosses in Ross-shire are descendants of a family that came from Lancashire in England in the early 1600s to work in an iron foundry on Loch Maree in the northwest of Scotland, the first in the UK.
Let me know if you have any other clues... I am also hitting a wall!
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Arie, I'm thinking you have GedComon on Family Search. Your name is so familiar and if so I tried to contact u two yrs ago to no avail. Can u send me personal e-mail so I can give more info. You must be familiar with Richard Shea who also has posted info on that site. His deceased wife was a Cross from the Aberdeen line whom he said orig. came from Dingwall. He gave me info on Isabella & Wm. Fraser (Robt.Cross father of Isabella no dates - who is he?). I do have all Rodk's children but not who they married. I think Vicki Grant's line IS the same as mine. The death certificate of Roderick shows death recorded Jun 11, 1861 and parents are given as Thomas Cross, miller, and Rebecca McLennan, & age given 69. He moved from Kiltearn to Alcaig '51-'61. Donald Cross may be half brother as parents are Thomas Cross (Master Miller of Contin) and Anne Tolmie, per Don's death cert. and where do your William and Alex come from??Can u give me parents/more dates etc. I have no siblings for Roderick other than Vickie's info and have too much info yet missing info to make good connections. maybe you have info I need & vice versa.