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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hertfordshire => Topic started by: JMann on Monday 23 February 04 09:04 GMT (UK)
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I'm looking for descendants of:
George FEARN (FANE) b. abt. 1818 from St. Stephen’s, London Colney
and
Ann CHILD(S) b. 1820 in Shenley daughter of Joseph and Sarah CHILD(S)
George and Ann were married Sep 25, 1843 in South Mimms
George died Oct 1902 at age 88 in London Colney
Ann died May 1902 in London Colney at age 83
Children:
George FEARNE b: Nov 21, 1842 in London Colney
Emma FEARNE (FANE) b Oct 21, 1844 in London Colney
- m.William BENNETT
James William FEARNE (FANE) b: Dec 06, 1847 London Colney
- m. Jane Maria MASLIN
- m. Sarah Ann SMITH
Joseph Henry FEARNE (FANE) b: Jun 07, 1850 in London Colney
- m. Kate SMITH
Charles FEARNE (FANE) b: Apr 01, 1853 in London Colney
- m. Elizabeth PHILLIPS
Caroline FEARNE (FANE) b: Nov 08, 1855 in London Colney
- m. George EAMES
Hannah FEARNE (FANE) b: Feb 06, 1858 in London Colney
m. Frederick WALLACE
Elizabeth Ada FEARNE (FANE) b: Mar 28, 1864 in London Colney
m. John MEIKLE
* note the surnames of this family appear in the parish records as FEARN(E). Their names appear on the various census returns and in the civil registrations as FANE.
George and Ann's burials are recorded in the parish records as FANE.
Judy
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The Fane Surname looks like it originates in Middlesex as this has the highest concentration of Fane's as listed in the 1881 Census. Next county is Surrey.
Have you thought of tracking all the Fanes in the 1881 Census back ? There were around 300 in the Census.
Regards
Sarah :)
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Hi Sarah,
As a matter of fact, although I've just started researching this family recently, I do have the census information for this family from 1851, 61, 71, 81, 91, and 1901. The Free BMD has confirmed a limited number of events and I'm now awaiting arrival of LDS microfilms. I believe I have my work cut out for me researching family I know are related before randomly starting to research 300 people who may not be, however they're never dismissed.
Judy
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In viewing the LDS parish records, I have found a variation of the FANE surname spelling as FEARNE/FEARN also FERN and FURN mid 1700's - 1826.
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hi judy
i was interested to read info of the fearne,s my relative is jane maria masling,(1849-1905) what has confused me some what, is that i have found jane maria marriage to jonas hillier fevere,(1871 colney st.peter, which is london colney these days)was this a mistake, i can see on the census that it is fearne, i am waiting to receive parish records via mormons so will be able to check, do you have any info on this please
marcie
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Hello Marcie
If one goes strickly by the Free BMD without obtaining the actual marriage certificate for Jane Maria's marriage or following up in the parish records I can see the "jonas hillier fevere" connection -assumption! ??? You'll find the baptism and marriage microfilms sort it all out for you providing names of her parents. Here's a preview of what was a confusing story for me to sort out.
There were two Jane Maslin(g)s born in London Colney
- only one Jane Maria though.
- born within about 2 years of each other - cousins
- what was confusing , information in various places on the net is incorrect as the the wrong Jane has been "assumed" as the bride from searching the baptisms. The London Colney marriages are not transcribed to the IGI and that film was gave the answers.
Jane Masling married John Long in 1874. LDS Microfilm # 1040872 is one story.
This is my connection:
Jane Maria MASLIN born Jun 23, 1849 St. Peter London Colney
to George and Mary MASLIN (nee OLNEY) LDS Microfilm # 1040843
Jane Maria MASLIN married James William FEARNE (aka FANE) (son of couple in first post above)
May 6, 1871 in St. Peter London Colney LDS Microfilm # 1040872
I have baptism records for 8 known children for this couple found on LDS microfilm # 1040843. all recorded as FEARN(E). The mother's name is recorded as Jane Maria in each case except for one. Most children will be found in the Civil Registration index under the spelling of FANE. The surnames of MASLIN and MASLING are interchanged throughout the parish records as well.
Jane Maria FANE was buried Oct 11, 1905 at age 53 which again is confusing with her date of birth! It looks by the years of birth and death you've provided, we have the same Jane Maria, so I know the parish records will help you out.
James William's sister, Hannah FANE was my gt. grandmother.
Judy
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hi judy
thanks for the info, both jane maslin,s are mine via their mothers who were sisters, still waiting for the records, so if i see anything of interest, i,ll let you know, i also know of someone who is following the childs, oakly line are you interested in that
marcie
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Hi Judy,
Just to make your census complete I have found the 1841 entry for George. Here goes ...
HO107/438/17 F.7. P.8. London Colney.
Thos Fearn 65 Labourer
Mary Fearn 60
Sarah Fearn 27
George 22 Ag Lab
Charles 20 Ag Lab
All born in county.
Whilst trawling I also found an entry for an Ann Childs age 20 a servant with Thomas 60 and Mary 65 Hipgrave ag lab at London Colney (Ref.107/442/3 F.39. P.4.)
Adult ages in 1841 were rounded down to the nearest 5.
Hope this helps.
Regards ... Peter
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hi judy
thanks for the info, both jane maslin,s are mine via their mothers who were sisters, still waiting for the records, so if i see anything of interest, i,ll let you know, i also know of someone who is following the childs, oakly line are you interested in that
marcie
Yes Marcie, mothers were sisters and fathers were brothers! Yes, I'm always interesting in contacts following this line. I have one following yours too.
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Thank you Peter! Perfect! How nice of you! I really appreciate the census!
Hi Judy,
Just to make your census complete I have found the 1841 entry for George. Here goes ...
HO107/438/17 F.7. P.8. London Colney.
Thos Fearn 65 Labourer
Mary Fearn 60
Sarah Fearn 27
George 22 Ag Lab
Charles 20 Ag Lab
All born in county.
Whilst trawling I also found an entry for an Ann Childs age 20 a servant with Thomas 60 and Mary 65 Hipgrave ag lab at London Colney (Ref.107/442/3 F.39. P.4.)
Adult ages in 1841 were rounded down to the nearest 5.
Hope this helps.
Regards ... Peter
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Hi
I have probably come a little late to this post as I have only just joined, but I am researching the same Masling family from London Colney.
I also have a link to a Jane Masling born c 1853 in Shenley, Hertfordshire, her parents being John Masling born c 1816 and Elizabeth ? born c 1825 Shenley. Is this the Jane Masling being talked about in these messages?
It is their daughter, Emma Masling born c 1857 that I am seeking information on in particular. Although I also need information on her siblings.
Emma married a Robert Jeffries in 1890 in St Albans and this is the connection I am trying to find more information on. Emma and Robert had 3 children that I am aware of at present, Henry c 1892, Percy c 1893 and Horace c 1896 all born in St Albans.
If anyone can kindly fill in gaps or point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful. In particular I'm trying to work out who married who in the Masling family.
thanks
Lilian
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Hello Lilian
It’s never too late and welcome!
The Jane you’re interested in, is Jane with no middle name, not Jane Maria.
As mentioned a few posts above there were two Jane Maslin(g)s born about two years apart. They’re cousins with their mothers being sisters and their fathers being brothers. Because someone has the wrong Jane marrying into my FANE (Fearne) family on Ancestry.com and RootsWeb’s family trees, I took time to look up both Janes so my records are accurate.
The information for Jane can be found in the London Colney parish records which are available to order on microfilm through the LDS Family History Centers.
Jane may have been born in Shenley as you mention, however her baptism is found in London Colney .
Baptised May 1, 1853 Jane d/o John, labourer and Elizabeth MASLIN
Born in Jan. 23, 1853
- also found in the IGI
- I’m sorry I don’t have any information on Jane’s siblings, however they’re listed as being baptised in London Colney in the online IGI by clicking on the Jane’s name and “batch number” for the surname Maslin.
Marriage:
May 3, 1874, London Colney
Jane, daughter of John Maslin, labourer age 21, a spinster
to
John LONG. John’s father’s first name is very difficult to make out.
- interestingly enough the witnesses are James Fane and Jane Fane (nee Jane Maria Maslin, her cousin)
- I haven’t followed up for children for this couple. Hopefully the census will help you.
Marriage for Jane’s parents
September 9, 1849 London Colney
John Maslin, full age, bachelor, labourer,
Father Robert Maslin (& Elizabeth NORRIS)
to
Betsy or Elizabeth OLNEY, full age, spinster, Father William Olney (& Sarah Ann ANTHONY)
The London Colney marriages haven't been transcribed to the IGI, so the parish records need to be seen. You may find the Free BMD is a help to you as well.
I'm sorry I don't have the information you're asking for about Emma, but hopefully I have filled in a gap or two for you in other places.
Judy
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It is their daughter, Emma Masling born c 1857 that I am seeking information on in particular. Although I also need information on her siblings.
Emma married a Robert Jeffries in 1890 in St Albans and this is the connection I am trying to find more information on. Emma and Robert had 3 children that I am aware of at present, Henry c 1892, Percy c 1893 and Horace c 1896 all born in St Albans.
Hi Lilian
Welcome to rootschat!
What did you want to know about Emma Masling & Robert Jeffries?
Send me a PM with as many details as you can that you've already got and I'll see what I can find in the St Albans records
Julie
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Hi Judy
Hadn't thought about your Fearne/Fane's for a while since my unsuccessful graveyard hunt :'(
If you let me know what you've got from 1901, I'll have a look in the Kelly's directories and Electoral registers and see who I can track down :)
Julie x
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Hi,
Are you any connection to the Childs/Medcalfs in Enfield? I have some info on them.
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It is their daughter, Emma Masling born c 1857 that I am seeking information on in particular. Although I also need information on her siblings.
Emma married a Robert Jeffries in 1890 in St Albans and this is the connection I am trying to find more information on. Emma and Robert had 3 children that I am aware of at present, Henry c 1892, Percy c 1893 and Horace c 1896 all born in St Albans.
Hi Lilian
Welcome to rootschat!
What did you want to know about Emma Masling & Robert Jeffries?
Send me a PM with as many details as you can that you've already got and I'll see what I can find in the St Albans records
Julie
Hi Julie
Thanks for the welcome, I've been a bit busy, so I have only just got back to the Masling family.
I have now got a birth certificate for Emma Masling born 8/6/1855 at Broad Colney Shenley. Her parents are John Masling and Emma Masling nee Olney. So I'm looking for any information on siblings to Emma with these parents. The 1861 census shows a brother John born c 1851, Jane c 1853, Thomas c 1858 and William c 1860. All these children are born in Shenley. I have found the baptisms for these children on the LDS site, also a possible sibling Elizabeth baptised 7 June 1863. I will need to check out the 1871 census onwards for these siblings as well as try and track marriages.
I have obtained the marriage certificate for Emma to Robert Jeffries on 18 Oct 1890 at the Parish Church, St Peters, St Albans. I have found 3 of their children as mentioned before, in the 1901 census, Henry R (obert) I think, c 1892, Percy c 1893 and Horace c 1896 all born in St Albans. The family is living at 40 Inkmark Rd, St Peter, St Albans, in 1901 - I'm not sure yet whether I have the correct spelling for the name of the road.
I am hoping to track down any other children of the marriage of Robert Jeffries to Emma Masling who presumably would have been baptised in the St Albans area. Although there may not be any more - Emma is 9 years older than Robert. She was 35 when she married Robert in 1890. They lived in Spencer St, St Peters St Albans at the time of the marriage.
I also know that Robert's father Henry Jeffries was a fishmonger in St Albans.
It also appears that Emma had a couple of children out of wedlock Albert Masling born 4 June 1877, and Amy Masling born c 1879 (who died died at Inkerman Rd on 15 December 1896). I have not been able to locate Albert yet in the 1881 census or later.
I haven't been able to locate any deaths for either Robert or Emma Jeffries yet, and I don't know what happened to their 3 boys I have found so far , no baptisms, - I'm also wondering whether they went to WWI.
Many thanks for the offer I really appreciate this.
Lilian
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Hello,
Just picked up this thread. I would be interested in anything you have on the Medcalfs of Enfiled.
Many thanks, Linda