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Title: john roberts
Post by: lubbie on Wednesday 22 November 06 11:39 GMT (UK)
could anyone plesae find the father of  john roberts c1858 as in 1881 he was living with joeph rogers in stansty denbighshire as his stepson.
many thanks
lubbie
Title: Re: john roberts
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 22 November 06 12:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Lubbie

William and I helped you earlier on this week. His mother, Ruth, was born Llanarmon and was listed as a widow in the 1861.

See this thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,197589.0.html

There doesn't seem to be any definite birth reg for him. One of the best ways of finding his father is to find an early marriage for Ruth or get the marriage certificate of John. This is John's marriage cert GRO reference:

 Wrexham, Mar Q, 1882, vol 11b, page 349.

I shall see if I can find an earlier marriage for Ruth but as we don't know her maiden name it will be difficult.

Gadget
Title: Re: john roberts
Post by: wrjones on Wednesday 22 November 06 14:57 GMT (UK)
As Gadget says Lubbie,it is extremely difficult to come up with the possible Marriage details for your John's Parents,indeed some would say it is more akin to guesswork!However I have come up with what can only be described as a possible.There is the Marriage of a John Roberts and a Ruth Jones which took place in Ruthin District Denbighshire in 1852;The GRO reference is Volume 11b Page 441.

Regards
William Russell jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Title: Re: john roberts
Post by: Paul on Wednesday 22 November 06 17:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Lubbie,
Gadget, William.
Is this him?
Treuddyn baptism. May 23 1858. John. S/O. Meshach & Ruth Roberts. Collier.
Marriage, Wrexham. Feb 4 1882.
John Roberts(X) 23. bachelor. Labourer. Rhosddu. Father, Meshach. Collier.
Barbara Ann Thomas. 24. Spinster. Ad'wyaelwy? Father, Daniel. Miner.
Witnesses. John Thomas & Mary Carrington.
(X)=Did not sign made mark.

Paul.
Title: Re: john roberts
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 22 November 06 17:36 GMT (UK)
Looks as if you've found him Paul  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

John named his first son  Meseach/Mesach.

Well done... Da iawn and all that  :)

Gadget
Title: Re: john roberts
Post by: wrjones on Wednesday 22 November 06 18:18 GMT (UK)
Yes excellent work Paul.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Title: Re: john roberts
Post by: lubbie on Thursday 23 November 06 14:51 GMT (UK)
I thank you all for your great help you are all amazing and so kind the amount of help you give to all. I will now sit and digest this info and see where it takes me.
thanks again
lubbie