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Hi All
Looking For Christopher Achilles/Achilleas or variating.
B 1868 Dublin, Ireland
Wife Either Catherine (nee Evans) OR
Margaret Higginson.
Christopher Married in 1898 Liverpool Jul-Aug-Sep Qtr.
Many Thanks Ferndale.
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Hi ferndale........Found his wife living with her parents......but no sign of Christopher..could he have been at sea maybe??
RG13-3476 Folio 125.
14 Hodder St.Everton.
James Evans. 42 Lab, Gas Works. b. Liverpool.
Katherine (wife) 40 b. "
Katherine Achilles(dau.)M. 20 b. "
Ellen Evans(dau)s.17 shop girl b. "
Edward " (son) 15 Lab.Bolier Makers.b. "
Mary " (dau) 14 b. "
James " (son) 8 b. "
Margaret Atkinson(Niece)s.17 shop girl. b. "
Theresa " (niece) 7 b. "
Thomas B.E.Achilles (Grandson) 1 year. b. "
(this last entry had been put as 15months and then crossed through replaced by 1 year)
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Regards..LL.
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This is Christopher on the 1891 census. All surname Achilles and living at 194 Lime Kiln Lane Liverpool
Augustine 45 shoemaker b Ireland
Mary 40 b Ireland
Christie son 20 dock labourer b Ireland
Nellie dtr 16 b Liverpool
This is the 1881 entry - surname is spelt Achilleas and all were b Dublin apart from Ellen Address was 5 Court 2 Grosvenor St
Augustus 40 shoemaker
Mary A. 39
Christopher 9
Ellen 6 b Liverpool
John 18
Mary A. 16
This is from the IGI
CHRISTOPHER ACHILLES
Birth: 29 NOV 1868 Dublin Ireland
Parents: AUGUSTIN ACHILLES MARY ANNE HALPIN
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This info from the IGI
Son Augustine b 5.7.1866 died 8.8.1871 - Dublin
This may be Augustine himself -
christened 23.4.1839 St Catherine RC Dublin - parents Augustine and Mary (nee Fenner)
Died 2.4.1907
The GRO index shows a death aged 66 in the June qtr 1907 of AUGUSTUS Achilles West Derby 8B 171
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Dear Carole, and LL
Thank you both so much. This info. has been a great help. It has confirmed that Christopher is my 2 xGt. Grandmother's brother and family.
Christopher's sister Mary Ann (nee Achilles) McAuliffe and their mother Mary Ann (nee Fenner) Achilles came to Australia about 1864-66 but the shipping records have been lost in floods about 100 yrs ago.
Their father Augustine Achilles apparently died in 1864 in
Dublin, but so far we are unable to find out his origins.
Someone told me recently there is an Achille Island off the coast of Ireland, but it does seem to be an unusual "Irish" name. Meanwhile the search goes on. Thanks once again. Cheers Dale.
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These entries are also on the IGI
Simon James Achilles b 6.7.1871 Dublin died 5.8.1871 - parents Augustine Achilles & Mary Ann Halpin (Christopher's brother)
Frederick Achilles b 1851 Dublin died 7th Dec 1887 - parents Augustine Achilles and Mary Fenner - brother of Augustine
John Achilles christened 17.9.1850 St Audeon RC Dublin - parents Augustine Achilles and Mary Fenner - brother of Augustine
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Hi Carole,
Thank you so much. Cheers Dale.
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Hi all - I have just found your posts. My 3rd gr grandparents was Augustus Achilles and Maryann Fannin/Fenner. My line is through their daughter Mary Ann Achilles who married John McAuliffe. My research seems to say Augustus came from Germany and was in the military, prisoner of war, more military services - Canada, back to Ireland - two wives. I am hoping to find evidence ofthe German side of this family.
Anne
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HI Alanna Grace,
I too am gt gr daughter of John and Mary Ann McAuliffe. Sounds like we need to get our heads together. Sorry this is so brief, but its nearly 2am and I'm off to bed. Catch up soon bye
Dale
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Hi Dale
Sounds good to me. I'm at work now. Hopefully over the weekend.
Anne
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The family marriage records can be seen here - all at St Joseph church
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolrcmarriages/marriages.php
1861 Augustine to Mary Ann Halpin
1882 Mary Ann Achilles to Francis Abbott
1897 Ellen Achilles to Christopher Whynn
1898 Christopher Achilles to Catherine Evans
each record is £3 to purchase - or 4 for £10
would look nice on your wall in frames :D
1861 25 ST JOSEPH AUGUSTINE AUGUSTINUM ACHILLES MARY ANN MARIANNAM HALPIN REQUEST FORM
1898 608 ST JOSEPH CHRISTOPHER CHRISTOPHORUM ACHILLES CATHERINE CATHARINAM EVANS REQUEST FORM
1897 614 ST JOSEPH ELLEN HELENAM ACHILLES CHRISTOPHER CHRISTOPHERUM WHYNN REQUEST FORM
1882 716 ST JOSEPH MARY ANN MARIAM ANNAM ACHILLES FRANCIS FRANCISCUM ABBOTT REQUEST FORM
wish I could find 4 of my ancestors marriage records for my wall :)
there is also a Baptism in 1900 for an Achilles child at St Joseph
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolrcbaptisms/baptisms.php
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Hi Garstonite, very interesting - I have August Achilles and Mary Halpin etc in my tree, but it is his sister Mary Ann Achilles who is my 2nd gr grandmother. My Mary Ann was born in 1843 and married John Florence McAuliffe according to records searched so far. It is her father Augustus Achilles and mother Mary Ann Fannin(?) m in 1835 I would like to pursue. All I know is Augustus claims his birthplace as Braunschweig (Brunswick) in Germany in about 1785. Augustus appears to have married Ann Cole in Canada while serving with the military. That marriage was 1814 in Halifax. They had a son Henry who apparently became a Reverend. I'd like to find Augustus' parents (Germany) and also where and when he died.
Anne
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The family marriage records can be seen here - all at St Joseph church
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolrcmarriages/marriages.php
1861 Augustine to Mary Ann Halpin
1882 Mary Ann Achilles to Francis Abbott
1897 Ellen Achilles to Christopher Whynn
1898 Christopher Achilles to Catherine Evans
each record is £3 to purchase - or 4 for £10
would look nice on your wall in frames :D
1861 25 ST JOSEPH AUGUSTINE AUGUSTINUM ACHILLES MARY ANN MARIANNAM HALPIN REQUEST FORM
1898 608 ST JOSEPH CHRISTOPHER CHRISTOPHORUM ACHILLES CATHERINE CATHARINAM EVANS REQUEST FORM
1897 614 ST JOSEPH ELLEN HELENAM ACHILLES CHRISTOPHER CHRISTOPHERUM WHYNN REQUEST FORM
1882 716 ST JOSEPH MARY ANN MARIAM ANNAM ACHILLES FRANCIS FRANCISCUM ABBOTT REQUEST FORM
wish I could find 4 of my ancestors marriage records for my wall :)
there is also a Baptism in 1900 for an Achilles child at St Joseph
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolrcbaptisms/baptisms.php
Free to view if you have access to Ancestry who have the original images.
Blue
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Fascinating story, just been reading about it on Ancestry and on here a general overview of how your ancestor and men of other nationalities, mostly Germans, got involved in the war of 1812 in North America:-
http://7thbattalion60th.wordpress.com/a-history-of-the-battalion/
Blue
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Blue I will have a read of your latest link, but am wondering why you repeated the earlier post? My Mary Anne McAuliffe nee Achilles died in Queensland - for some reason I can't attach the record, but this is what it says:
Name: Mary Ann McAuliffe
Date of Death: 13 September 1905
Place of Death: Queensland
Father's name: Augustine Ackeless
Mother's name: Mary Ann Phimnan
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Place: Qld
Registration No: 002357
Page No. 16630
It appears no-one knew how to spell Achilles or her mother's maiden name - which is hard to read on the marriage registration as well.
Anne
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Repeated? Do you mean the post where I pointed out that the records mentioned by Garstonite are on Ancestry? This thread was looking at Liverpool records for the family. It may be better to post a new thread in the Europe section if you want to specifically ask for help about their German origins:-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/europe/
Blue
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Yes sorry - thought we were looking for our mutual ancestors in general. No German posts on any Achilles/Achilleas so I have made the first post on the Europe site - see what happens but think it will be slim pickings.
Anne
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Do you have his statement re his military service prior to joining the 60th Royal
Ref WO97-0724-019-004
Its also on ancestry.
My condensed version
year 1800 conscript to the Duke of Brunswick till 1805 taken prisoner in Saxe Weimer, escaped the French went back to the town of Brunswick till 1 January 1806.
Then French conscript to the King of West Phalia, sent to Spain till 1809
Taken prisoner by General Fuentes ?
POW till 1813
30 September 1813 enlisted in 60th Royal (Armour?) should this be Artillery, till disbanded 1818.
I was granted 300 aces of land and lived comfortably until 1820 when requested by Colonel M?
of the 60th to take up my former position of Armourer Sergeant due to desertion of the current Armourer.
Register of Chelsea Pensioners who served in Canada
Augustus Achilles 10 July 1833 address Dublin.
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Yes thank you Amondg - I do have those records