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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cumberland => England => Cumberland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: FH Course Tewks on Saturday 18 November 06 10:01 GMT (UK)
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Both born in 1859, prob in Cumberland or Northumberland. Would like to know where and when they were married.
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Hi Welcome to RootsChat.
The marriage took place in Tynemouth the Tynemouth Registration District of Northumberland in the Mar 1/4 of 1888 10b 235.
Using these ref details you can order the certificate on line from
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
Cheers Kris :D
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Here they are in the 1891 Census
RG12/4222 Folio 110 Page 34
Brunton Street
Wallsend
Northumberland
REAY William H Head 32 Mar b Hartburn Northumberland Blacksmith
REAY Margaret Wife 31 Mar b Wallsend
REAY Annie Dau 1 b Newcastle
REAY Sarah J Step Dau 3 b Wallsend
Wallsend is in the Tynemouth Registration District. You may find the marriage took place there as it is the wifes parish.
Cheers Kris :D
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Thanks a million. Don't suppose I could have the 1901 census?
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You are very Welcome. No problem.... They have moved to Durham, with Margaret listing place of birth as Howden on Tyne
RG13/4766 Folio 57 Page 54
14 Oakes Square
Westgate
Durham
REAY William Henry Heron Head 42 Mar b Hartburn Horse Shoer
REAY Margaret Wife 42 Mar b Howden on Tyne
REAY Annie Dau 11 b North Newcastle
REAY Henry Heron Son 6 b North Newcastle
REAY Janet Dau 2 b North Newcastle
Cheers Kris :D
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you're amazing, many thanks. Is it possible to find out who their parents were. Margaret was born 26. 11. 1859 and William on 8.5.1859.
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This Looks like William in 1861
RG9/3870 Folio 34 Page 13
Blacksmiths House
Hartburn
REAY Henry Head Head 35 Mar b Ponteland Northumberland Blacksmith 1 Apprentice
REAY Mary Ann Wife 33 b Newbiggan Northumberland
REAY Ann Dau 13 b Ponteland
REAY Lane Dau 6 b Ponteland
REAY Henery Son 6 b Hartburn
REAY John Son 4 b Hartburn
REAY William Son 1 b Hartburn
BELLMAN Thomas Servant 19 unm b Bedlinton Apprentice
Hope you are all having a great day :D
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Margaret is not so easy. So far I have not found one listing a place of birth we already have and there are a few Margaret Johnson's in Northumberland. You can try the 1881 Free on Family Search if you like. I will keep looking for her in 1861 or 1871
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp
Cheers Kris :D
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I am sorry. I am not having any luck with Margaret. With nothing else to go by I am afraid we will need the marriage Certificate to find out her Fathers Name. There is just no-one showing up with a place of birth listed to match the Census Entries we have in either 1861 or 1871 census. By 1881 she is working as a servant......Kris :'(
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Getting back to William. Here is Williams Family in 1851
HO107/2413 Folio 111 Page 12
Ponteland
REAY Henry Head 25 Mar b Ponteland Blacksmith Master employing 2 Apprentices
REAY Mary A Wife 25 Mar b Newburn
REAY Ann Dau 3 b Ponteland
ARMSTRONG James App 16 Unm b Bywell Blacksmith App
WILKINSON Mary A Servant 14 Unm b Newburn House Servant
Will look for Henry in 1841
Cheers Kris :D
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MMM Looks like he is possibly with grandparents. 1841 being the first census to be of any benefit to genealogists is rather limited with what it can tell us. No Relationships are listed nor marital status. No exact Place of Birth is Listed on Y (Yes Born in County) or N (No not born in County) Adult ages (persons over 15) may rounded down in 5 year blocks - if the enumerator followed his instructions - looks like this one did not
HO107/823/24 Folio 11 Page 19
Bell Villa
Ponteland
REAY William 70 Y Blacksmith
REAY Jane 63 Y
REAY Henry 16 Y
REAY Mark 6 Y
BUCKLAN William 20 Y Journeyman Blacksmith
SEXON William 16 Y Blacksmith App
RIDLEY Hannah 18 Y Female Servant
Kris :D
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Thanks for all your help :-* sorry Margaret has been so difficult. Looking at the fact that Sarah Jane was a stepdaughter to William, it could be that Margaret had been married before - she was 29 when she married William, which seems old. So Johnson could actually be her 1st married name. Am I right in thinking I can only find that out from the marriage certificate?
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Aha Think I have her ;D
RG10/5110 Folio 93 Page 11
1 Static Road
Willington
JOHNSON William Head 54 Mar b Tynemouth Coal Trimmer
JOHNSON Mary Wife 52 Mar b Wallsend
JOHNSON Ann Dau 13 b Wallsend Scholar
JOHNSON Margaret Dau 11 b Wallsend Scholar
BELL Joseph Lodger 56 b Wallsend Coal Trimmer
Kris :D
PS: Looks like she was not previously married by this
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and 1861
RG9/3839 Folio 40 Page 26
East Howdow
Chirton
JOHNSON William Head 44 Mar b No Shields Waterman
JOHNSON Mary Wife 41 Mar b Wallsend
JOHNSON William Son 19 b Wallsend
JOHNSON Sarah Dau 15 Unm b Wallsend
JOHNSON Joseph Son 11 b Wallsend Scholar
JOHNSON Ann Dau 3 b North Shields
JOHNSON Margaret 1 b North Shields
Kris :D
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absolute magic, thanks Kris. I'm sorry the course is over. Take care
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HO107/2409 Folio 153 Page 22
Not Known (Detached Houses)
Howden
JOHNSON William Head 35 Mar b No Shields Keelman
JOHNSON Mary Wife 31 Mar b Howden
JOHNSON John Son 11 b Howden
JOHNSON William Son 9 Howden Scholar
JOHNSON Sarah Dau 5 b Howden Scholar
JOHNSON Joseph Son 2 b Howden
BELL Joseph Bro in Law 35 Unm b Howden Keelman
OOH Brother in Law....Very Good
Kris :D
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You Too....All the Best with your research. Hope we see you on RootsChat again.....Kris :D
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Thanks for all your help yesterday, all my students went away happy.
I am not sure if this lady picked up the last posting, so I will print it off and send it too her - hopefully she will join up soon.
Cheers and thanks again for your fantastic help.
Sue B