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Title: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: Greenemma on Friday 17 November 06 06:25 GMT (UK)
Wondering if someone could do a death lookup for NSW?

Frederick Llewellyn Rowland
b 17 March 1885 Victoria

parents are David Rowland & Jane Huston

he served in France in 1918

occupation Veterinary Surgeon

last known living in 1920

I was told that he moved to NSW

Any help would be appreciated.

In return I can offer lookups of burials at Ballarat Cemetery, Victoria, Australia.






Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: cando on Friday 17 November 06 06:53 GMT (UK)
It is possible for you to search the NSW deaths to 1975 online at http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au    Click on Family History and then search indexes.  I had a quick look but was unable to find a death reg for Frederick L Rowland.

Cheers
cando
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: tropicalj on Friday 17 November 06 07:46 GMT (UK)
hello there

I have  found a  possible death  in Victoria

Frederick Rowland aged 70 at St Kilda year 1955 reference number 10078
but  the father is David Rowland  and  the mother is Annie Hamlet

so  don't  know  will check  the births

regards jenn
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: sparrett on Friday 17 November 06 07:55 GMT (UK)
Hi,
You would probably be aware that
DAVID ROWLAND died 1903 @62
JANE ROWLAND  died 1928 @ 82  and
DAVID DAVIES ROWLAND died 1885 @ 14
are buried at Clunes Cemetery.
Wonder if DAVID DAVIES is a brother of FREDERICK.
Sue



 
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: tropicalj on Friday 17 November 06 07:58 GMT (UK)
hello  there

by  the  birth  the  mother is Jane Huston
and David Davies  is  his  brother  but  I can't  deaths  for the  other  children  with the mother being Jane Huston  either very strange

regards jenn
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: tropicalj on Friday 17 November 06 08:01 GMT (UK)
hello  there

amended  that  I have  found  a few births  now  with David Rowlands  and Jane Huston

so  I think  the death  I  have found  is  not applicable

he  could  have  died  in NSW after 1975

regards Jenn
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: Robert Coble on Friday 17 November 06 09:23 GMT (UK)
Hi All,
There is a death of David Rowland on the 7 Aug 1983 in New South Wales. that all it gives me.

Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: sparrett on Friday 17 November 06 20:59 GMT (UK)
 Hi again,
Just wondered whether it is worth noting in the NAA file of his service history we see the following information.

On 10/8/1919, Federick was granted 6 months 'study leave' from the army to go to America and study 'agriculture'  The end of this 6 month period brought the end of the war and the next entry sees them infoming the family that he has left San Francisco on Sept 21, 1920.
 We see that he duly arrived home in Aust.
My thoughts...
Did he perhaps meet someone during that time in America and returned there .
As we can't immediately see a marriage in Aust or a death, it seems like a possibility.
 Maybe you could look for him in US too.
Sue
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: Greenemma on Saturday 18 November 06 00:10 GMT (UK)
Hi All,
There is a death of David Rowland on the 7 Aug 1983 in New South Wales. that all it gives me.



Hi Ozybob, not sure if David would be related, depends who his parents are. 
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: Greenemma on Saturday 18 November 06 00:12 GMT (UK)
It is possible for you to search the NSW deaths to 1975 online at http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au    Click on Family History and then search indexes.  I had a quick look but was unable to find a death reg for Frederick L Rowland.

Cheers
cando

Hi Cando,  Thanks for the web site, I didn't know about it, I have searched for Fred, Frederick, Rowland, Rowlands.  No luck with any of these names.  He may possibly have died after 1975 or died elsewhere other than NSW.  I am still scratching my head over where to go next.  Fun looking but frustrating not having an answer yet after 12 years of searching.
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: Greenemma on Saturday 18 November 06 00:30 GMT (UK)
Hi,
You would probably be aware that
DAVID ROWLAND died 1903 @62
JANE ROWLAND  died 1928 @ 82  and
DAVID DAVIES ROWLAND died 1885 @ 14
are buried at Clunes Cemetery.
Wonder if DAVID DAVIES is a brother of FREDERICK.
Sue

 

Hi Sue,  Thanks, yes David is Frederick's brother and David & Jane are the parents and also are my great great grandparents.  That is correct they are buried in Clunes.


Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: cando on Saturday 18 November 06 00:31 GMT (UK)
Hi

Have you looked at his war service record on the national archives site?  I think Sue's suggestion should be followed up.

www.naa.gov.au/The_collection/recordsearch.html 

Did he study to be a vet?  Perhaps you could follow this up as well.

Can't think of any other avenues at the moment ;)

Cheers
cando
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 18 November 06 00:36 GMT (UK)
He was also given a month's study at Edinburgh[ UK] uni
1/7/1919 to 30/7/1919 in order to study 'animal husbandry'

So he did have time for things outside military life!!
S
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: Greenemma on Saturday 18 November 06 00:37 GMT (UK)
Hi again,
Just wondered whether it is worth noting in the NAA file of his service history we see the following information.

On 10/8/1919, Federick was granted 6 months 'study leave' from the army to go to America and study 'agriculture'  The end of this 6 month period brought the end of the war and the next entry sees them infoming the family that he has left San Francisco on Sept 21, 1920.
 We see that he duly arrived home in Aust.
My thoughts...
Did he perhaps meet someone during that time in America and returned there .
As we can't immediately see a marriage in Aust or a death, it seems like a possibility.
 Maybe you could look for him in US too.
Sue
   Hi Sue,  Thanks, I only found this information myself last month, (and I have been trying to locate him for 12 years)  I am positive he came back to Australia as he was briefly living with his mother and sister Margaret in a house in Clunes.   That is certainly an interesting thought that he may have returned to US.  I've got a cousin who lives in US so maybe she maybe able to follow up that lead.  It is becoming a process of elimination to try to find what happened to Frederick.   Attached is a photo of Fred in his uniform.
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 18 November 06 00:41 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I have had a lot of succes posting on the US immigration boards of Roots Chat.
The US records are good and people seem very willing to help.
Worth thinking about anyway.
Sue
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: tropicalj on Saturday 18 November 06 00:52 GMT (UK)
hello  there greenemma

well he  is a dashing  figure  you say  he is  uniform  but where from? and  do  you  know when  the photo was  taken

see by  the war  records  he was 6'4"  but he  had  no  teeth  but dentures ;D
which  he gave away  to another soldier
and that  he was still at  his  mothers  in 1924 presumably  cause  that where his medals  were sent

it  is  possible  that he lived to a  ripe old age

have  you tried  the rookwood cemetery  index  at all?

regards jenn
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 18 November 06 00:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Jenn,
That was funny about the teeth!
The military cetainly took it seriously though!!
I did giggle.
Sue
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: cando on Saturday 18 November 06 01:39 GMT (UK)

Had a quick look at the 1930 US Census on ancestry.com - only one Frederick L Rowland b. abt 1883  New Haven CT.

I thought that if Frederick had studied to be a Vet in Aus, you may be able to chase up academic records, registration boards,  etc.

Cheers
cando
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 18 November 06 02:22 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Yes, The archivist at Melbourne University [for one] is very helpful and prompt.  I have been able to get my grandfathers and great uncle's entire academic transcripts quite easily.

Interesting, but may not throw light on marriage or death of Frederick.

Sue
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: Robert Coble on Saturday 18 November 06 07:06 GMT (UK)
Hi
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: tropicalj on Saturday 18 November 06 07:51 GMT (UK)
hey  there Bob

what  has  happened  here mate 

regards jenn
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 18 November 06 08:02 GMT (UK)
Hey,
It looks like Bob has developed a new talent with his old age!!!

Nice to be able to see the details of the shoes and the tartan .. Good work.
Sue
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: Robert Coble on Saturday 18 November 06 09:20 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Is this better.
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 18 November 06 21:27 GMT (UK)
MMmm...
Yes, I think so.  Not quite so bright looking.  More natural.
Wonder if Emma will like it.
Sue
Title: Re: NSW Death Lookup Please
Post by: Greenemma on Wednesday 19 June 24 03:30 BST (UK)
Found Frederick in 1922 in Australia.

The Ballarat Star Sat 14 Jan 1922 Page 11 Tourello (Victoria, Australia)
Accident. A slow recovery is being made by Mr Fred Rowland who met with a very severe accident, recently.  He was travelling between Clunes and Tourello in a jinker, when he was overtaken by a motorcar travelling in the same direction, which struck the jinker with much force and smashed it almost to pieces.  The driver was thrown heavily to the ground sustaining very severe injuries.  The patient has just been
able to leave his bed within the past few days, and some time will elapse before he again becomes convalescent.