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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: CassT on Thursday 16 November 06 04:20 GMT (UK)
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As a result of following a lead I found on Rootschat, I emailed Barnsley Council and have received advice from them that MY G G Grandmother Ann PAPE is buried in Barnsley Cemetery in Grave E 124 with her son John Lane and his wife Martha.
My question is does anybody know of any person who takes photos of graves in Barnsley Cemetery???
I don't know if there is a headstone on the grave or not, Ann Pape died in 1903 , John in 1927 and Martha 1919.
any help would be appreciated
Cass Thomas
Sydney Australia
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Hi,
Sorry to be a pain but I don't suppose I could have their e-mail address, I am also looking for a rellie I believe is buried there.
Thanks
Michelle
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hi cass
i live quite close to barnsley cemetery and the next time i'm passing i'll have a look for you. did they give you a plan of the cemetery as it is quite a large one and as far as i can remember there are no markings as to where ie grave e 124 might be
regards carolanne
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Carolanne,
sorry for the delay in answering you reply , I have had a week up the coast had a great time morning on the beach, afternoons in the local library in the family history sections.
Barnsley Council did not mention a Map, so I have sent an email to them today asking how I can get one (with the Plot marked). When I receive a reply I will contact you.
thanks for your kind offer.
Cass
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Hi,
Sorry to be a pain but I don't suppose I could have their e-mail address, I am also looking for a rellie I believe is buried there.
Thanks
Michelle
Michelle
I sent a email to
bereavementservices@barnsley.gov.uk
I found it by doing a search on barnsley council , then when i found their page i think i put in "cemetery" and some how ended up on a page that talked about
how they can do a grave search.
when i do a search on Google or Yahoo and find what i am looking for , half the time I don't recall how i got there ( old age has set in)
regards
Cass Thomas
Sydney Australia
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hi cass
thanks for your reply i only hope when they get back to you they put X marks the spot. i've been to the cemetery today looking for some of my relatives the cemetery is listed in sections so i took the information that grave E was section E and then the grave number and by sheer luck i came across some workmen who told us where section E is but there are 2 section E's anyhow i had a quick look but did'nt find anything some of the graves are just grassed over and some of the headstones are face down but when they get back to you hopefully it will have more information then i'll go back for another look.
regards carolanne
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Good morning carolanne
I received a reply from the council, they are going to post me a map.
It usually takes 7- 10 days for mail to arrive from the UK if it comes airmail.
When the map arrives I contact you again, I hope they mark the spot.
thank you for looking for me.
Cass
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hello cass
me too lol
regards carolanne
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Hi there,
Have you solved the problem with Barnsley Cemetery, I have maps of the letters and numbers in Barnsley Cemetery, I have ancestors buried there.
let me know if you are still stuck and I will email it to you
Carol
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hi carol
yes the problem was solved barnsley cemeteries dept sent cass detailed maps of the part of the cemetery that i wanted with the plot marked. unfortunately there was no headstone but by working with the headstones that were around we managed to pinpoint where the grave should be.
thanks for offering carol
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Hi
Strangle enough mine were in the same part as yours, and had no headstones, we had to count from the ones that were marked. There were a lot of paupers in Barnsley in the 1800's
Carol
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hi carol
you might be right about there being a lot of paupers in the 1800's i also thought that maybe because of when the last person was buried, the grave just fell into disrepair and if you live local local you will know what barnsley council are like. but i must admit the cemetery itself does look nice and tidy and cared for more than it did a few years ago.
regards carol
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Hi
you are so right about Barnsley Council, I think if we discussed their problems we would jam the web up.
I do live locally, and my ancestors were born in the centre of Barnsley, in and around Wood Street/Joseph Street. unfortunately they were a very poor lot one died in Sheffield Lunatic Asylum, another in Barnsley Workhouse, always said I came from 'good stock'.........
Carol
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hiya carol
i wonder if our ancestors might have been neighbours on my g/mothers side they lived in new st and heelis st. you never know we may be related a small world isn't it
regards carol
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Hi Carol
You never know do you, My lot started in 1841 at Dawsons Wall, top of New Street,
Wood Street
Joseph Street
Wilson Street
Duke Street
Harry Terrace
Raywood Row
Dobie Street.
I have some photograpsh (from Barnsley Archive) of these areas in about 1900, so they would have been similar in the 1800's they look so poor and crowded and awful. I unfortunately have run out of relatives, their name is Simmons and the man who came from Bedford in 1840 to Barnsley have many children, but my G.Grandfather only had two children my Grandfather and a daughter, my Grandfathers children have all died out. and I cannot trace his daughter (my G. Aunt) I have her birth cert. and on the 1901 census aged 8 yrs. then nothing. I get fed up looking, have a rest, then off I go like a lunatic trying again, have been doing this for 6 yrs. tried advertising in the B. Chronicle, joined Barnsley fhs, found a cousin of my Fathers in Wakefield I never knew he had, so that was good. but this G. Aunt named Laura is ever elusive, her descendants probably run the post office in Worborough or something.
Carol
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hello carol
my main problem with my tree is that 3 of my ggg/grandfathers came from ireland. i have know idea when they came over to yorkshire infact i didn't know that i had any irish in me till i started doing the family tree. they were linen weavers and lived in heelis st, new st and copper st.
i was very fortunate that i knew some of my g/ants and uncles so found starting the family tree off no problem. i had a good contact last week it turned out that his g/father and my g/mother were brother and sister and as just sent me a photo with my g/grandparents and 5 of their children my g/mother was one of them.
good luck in finding your g/aunt i know at times it can be very frustrating but all we can do is keep trying
regards carol
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Hi Carolanne, I found some old postings relating to Barnsley and note the Kenworthy name is one you are researching. My Grandfather was George White who was born in Barnsley in 1857 and my Grandmother was Sarah Ann Kenworthy born in Thurgoland. The family, my GGrandfather William White, and GGGrandfather John White lived at Heelis Street, Becket Square and Parker Street and were linen weavers.
Could there be a connection?
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Hi Leura
If you click on carolanne name you see her profile and see she has not been active on this website since Oct 2022 or two and a half years ??? - so if she does not answer - you'll know why
Dave :)
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Hi Leura
It all sounds pretty familiar so I'll go check and get back to you.
Regards Carol
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Hi Dave
I only got the e- mail this morning, I'm still alive and kicking but thanks for you replying to Leura I'm on to it now.
Regards Carol
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::) - :)
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Hi Leura
Although I have all the names in my tree that you have mentioned they are not my family which is a shame as I like finding living relatives.
I have 2 Sarah Ann Kenworthy's in my tree and neither married a White, whilst growing up and I'm still living in the same village where I was born there were two Kenworthy family's and we weren't related.
If I can help you in any way just ask
Regards Carol
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I'm still alive and kicking
Thank goodness for that. ;D ;D ;D ;D