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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cornwall Lookup Requests => Cornwall => England => Cornwall Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: elsie ellen on Wednesday 15 November 06 08:57 GMT (UK)
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On a bitterly cold evening in Australia - only weeks from summer - hello!
I am interested to learn more of the family of Jean VAGUE and Phillip JANE who married circa 1795. Lanhydrock, Bodmin, Lanlivery...that's the area I think they were living as some of their grandchildren were born in these places. I know of three children - John (1796), Robert (1800) and Phillip (1804). However I do not know where they were born, baptised or married.
I have no information about the marriage of Jean and Phillip and would love to learn when and where it took place.
Jean's parents and siblings are also a total mystery.
I would be so very grateful for any help to find this family.
Cheers :) :) :)
Elsie Ellen
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from the IGI,
Philip Jane married Joan Vague 1/4/1796 batch M002141 Lanlivery Rural. Phillimore index has him as yeoman and the marriage was by licence.
John baptised 2/12/1796 s/o of Philip and Joan Lanlivery Rural batch P002141
Robert bp 4/5/1800 same batch no.
Philip bp 1/7/1804 same batch no.
Joan Vague baptised 5/11/1766 d/o Robert and Martha Lanlivery Rural batch P002141. Two older sisters on same batch.
Philip Jane bp 10/2/1771 Lanhydrock which surprisingly matches for age with the 1841 census entry at H0107/150/5 folio 5 pg 4 (if that is right family?)
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Martha Vage d/o Robert and Martha bp 28/9/1761 died 26/6/1770
Susannah Vague d/o Robert & Martha bp 1/3/1758
both batch P002141
Robert Vague married Martha Woolcock 6/1/1757 Lanhydrock batch M002161
There's also a marriage for Robert Vague and Catherine Weymond 3/11/1754 Lanlivery batch M002141 which could be the same Robert as I can see only one baptism to this couple William 11/8/1755 Lanhydrock P002161.
Possible baptism for Robert 26/1/1725 s/o William and Susanna at Lanlivery especially given his children's names.
Jane family all baptised Lanhydrock batch P002161 children of John & Susanna
Ann 30/11/1768
Philip 10/2/1771
Thomas 17/9/1775
John 30/11/1777
Susannah 26/3/1780
Agnes 7/4/1782
Joan 1/8/1784
Green (son!) 2/10/1785
Dorothy 17/8/1788
Joseph 6/8/1791
John Jane married Susanna Vyvyan 20/10/1767 M002161
Susannah Vyvian bp 25/6/1747 d/o Philip & Dorothy P002161
All this should be verified with originals, difficult in your case unless you're planning a trip to Truro? Ordering the LDS films probably your best option at the moment although emailing the online parish clerks for Lanlivery and Lanhydrock also worth a shot.
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Hi Elsie,
Pauline, the OPC for Lanlivery is a RootsChat member. She holds the microfiche and I am sure she will be able to verify the Lanlivery information and provide you with a few extras ........Kris ;D
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=23322
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What a great morning!!! ;D ;D ;D To wake up and find your informative postings was just fantastic. Feel like jumping for joy!!!
Thank you Osprey and Chris for this most amazing information.
I'll contact the OPC for Lanlivery later today. So many of the family were from that area....wow...a chance to fill some gaps.
Now to get my head around all the information provided by Osprey....
How am I going to get any housework done today? :D :D :D
Cheers
Elsie
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Hi Elsie
I am Pauline, the OPC for Lanlivery. I will gladly look up my records for you, but at the moment we are flat out here preparing for our daughter's wedding in 2 weeks time ;D
If you can bear with me, I'll put some time in after the event. It may be an idea to email me direct just to prompt the old memory cells ;)
Kind regards
Pauline
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Hi Pauline!
Thank you for contacting me. I can be patient...I understand! Been there, done that. I'll jog your memory a week or two after the wedding to allow you recovery time. ;D ;D ;D
Enjoy. It's a marvellous time.
Cheers
Elsie
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Hi Elsie
I live in Lanlivery and am churchwarden - if you would like me to look for Vague's in the churchyard I will - that is when it's not raining!
Ellen
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Hi Ellen!
Lanlivery...how wonderful!
From about 1804 I have identified family connections to Lanlivery through the JANE family when Phillip JANE married Joan Vague. Obviously her family were already living in Lanlivery. I know nothing about them.
I would so appreciate your looking for the Vagues in the churchyard when you are able. Thank you for making such a kind offer.
Wish it was raining here in Australia. We are living through an horrendous drought.
Cheers
Elsie
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Hi Elsie
I expect it will be at least next weekend before I can look - busy today and not enough daylight when I am at home during the week!
Nice sunny late autumn day here in Cornwall
Ellen
:)
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Hi Ellen!
That's fine. Whenever you can find the time... no pressure :) :)
Cheers.
Elsie
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Sorry to tell you that the weather has been so bad - wind and rain - that I haven't had a chance to linger in the churchyard yet.
There is a memorial though to Ruth, widow of Samuel Vague alongside the path.
May be the Christmas holidays now before I get time.
Best wishes
Ellen
:) :) :)
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Hi Ellen! :) :)
We could do with some of that rain. Our state is under siege with bushfires and drought.
No rush...as and when. I appreciate you keeping me on your radar screen.
Cheers ;D
Elsie
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Hi Elsie
A window in the weather this afternoon allowed me to go and find the Vague graves - I think there are Janes too but didn't get those today. The Vague inscriptions are:
"In loving memory of Ruth, dearly beloved wife of Samuel Vague of this parish who departed this life Mar 6th 1872 aged 44. Her children arise up and call her blessed. Proverbs 31.28"
"In loving memory of Samuel Vague of this parish who departed this life May 24th 1913 aged 86. " (The scriptual passage at the end was illegible)
I will go and look for the Janes another time.
The Churchyard was looking lovely today with lots of early snowdrops. It occured to me that you might like to see a pic of our church so have attached to this post.
Warm wishes
Ellen
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Hi Elsie
A lovely warm sunny February afternoon. Been down to the churchyard and found some JANE graves - details as follows.
"In loving memory of Thomas Jane of this parish who died at Boslymon April 14th 1908 aged 80 years.
Also of Mary Jane his beloved wife who died at Boslymon July 14th 1895 aged 65 years"
"In loving memory of John Jane who died Feb 2nd 1863 aged 65 years, also of Nancy his wife who died Nov 14th 1877
Also their daughter Ann Goss Moss aged 67 years.
These all died in the faith"
"Sacred to the memory of William Jane late of Roselath in this parish who died Nov 6th 1869 aged 69 years
Also of William his son who died June 13th 1869 aged 38 years
Also of Edwin his son who died Oct 19th 1869 aged 24 year
and Also Jenifer his wife who died July 31st 1878 aged 72 years"
"In loving memory of Elizabeth the beloved wife of Thomas Jane late of Penpillick died September 24th 1925 aged 76
also of Thomas Jane, beloved husband of the above died March 5th 1926 aged 84
At rest"
I have a few photos of the headstones which need a bit of adjusting and I will post later.
Hope this is useful
Best wishes
Ellen
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Here are the pics my 9 year old grandaughter took this afternoon. We went together, she took the photos and I transcribed! I have now adjusted them a bit. If you want the larger version pm your e-mail address and I can e-mail them to you.
Best wishes
Ellen
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and the next ......
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Hello Ellen!
As I type it is 41C in the shade! ::)
Thank you very much for your generousity of time to locate and transcribe this information on my JANE and VAGUE families. Your granddaughter's assistance is also appreciated. Please thank her for me.
It's amazing...though your efforts I feel a more tangible contact with my forebears. The information from the headstones is wonderful.
Thank you so very much for your kindness in helping me.
With a smile. :)
Elsie
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Hi Everyone researching the Vague/Jane families. I'm hoping someone has been able to find information about Martha Woolcock, wife of Robert Vague, whom married in 1757 in Lanhydrock. I've been trying to find her parents for years, and hoping that someone has some information about the Woolcocks to share.
Marilyn
Western Australia
I descend down the Jane line from Simon Peter JANE, buried in the Eaglehawk Cemetery, Bendigo, Victoria.