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Title: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: caron on Saturday 13 November 04 23:23 GMT (UK)
If you have any connection with the GREENS from Leighton Buzzard I would love to hear from you.
I am researching THOMAS GREEN born about 1771 (may be Beds or Bucks)
who married Sarah Narroway in Leighton Buzzard in 1796.

Thomas Greens son was George GREEN born 1898 Leighton Buzzard. George Greens marriages were to :-
Sarah BONHAM, 1822.
FRANCIS BRIGGS 1827.
REBECCA DENCH 1835
HANNAH THOMPSON 1865

George Greens son Henry Born in 1847 moved to Islington Middlesex

If you have any knowledge of this family please let me know.
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: tazzie on Monday 18 July 05 16:38 BST (UK)
Hi Caron
 Have just been passed your listing.I am also looking for Green family in Leighton Buzzard but about 100 years after your Thomas or George. I do however have easy access to the Parish records for Leighton Buzzard as they are in the library in the town and if you still need info on Thomas or George and family let me know and I will have a look for you.
I am looking for Albert Green my grt grandfather who we have been told died following an accident on the railway that ran at the sand pits. His son Walter my grandfather was born in 1907.
                   Tazzie
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: Gordon Beaney on Sunday 07 August 05 18:12 BST (UK)
hi caron

strolling round all saints, l.b. today and spotted this :

George Finney Green Died 28/07/1849 aged 36 + Mary agnes Green his daughter died 20/09/1870 aged 32 years.

hope this is of use to you.

thanks
serena
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: caron on Wednesday 05 October 05 15:42 BST (UK)
Thank you  for your replies regarding the Green family in Leighton Buzzard.

George Greens son Henry moved to Islington and the Green family I am researching remained in Islington until the 1930s.

I would like some help if you have time with regard to the children of Thomas Green and Sarah Narrowway.  I only have George Green born
1798 as their child.  I have looked at the IGI and there are no other children with Thomas and Sarah as the parents in Leighton Buzzard.

Thomas and Sarah married in 1796 in Leighton Buzzard and I have a copy of their marriage entry.

Would you be kind enough to see if there are any more Green births after 1796 please with Thomas and Sarah as parents.

I am also having trouble finding out where Thomas Green was born, I cannot find his birth on the IGI for Bedfordshire, and an entry in the 1841 census for him says he is not born in the County!   In the 1841 census He was aged 60 an ag labourer living with Sarah Green his wife age 60 and Hannah Green 15 his granddaughter.  North West of North Street Leighton Buzzard.

It has been suggested to me to look at the parish records at nearby counties such as Bucks and look at places such as Pitstone.  Thomas Green died in 1847 Age 76 a labourer and was living in Leighton Buzzard.  This makes his birth date about 1771. 

If you can check the parish records for Thomas's Birth in 1771 approximately and other children for Thomas and Sarah after 1796 I would be very grateful. Thank you

Caron
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: caron on Wednesday 05 October 05 15:44 BST (UK)
Thank you Serena for your findings at the cemetry. I dont know who these people are, but I will keep a note of this.

Sorry for delay in replying but I was away in the summer

Kind regards
caron
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: caron on Saturday 28 May 11 22:03 BST (UK)
I still havent got any further with finding out where Thomas Green approx DOB 1771 was born.   I have only found him in the 1841 census and have his death certificate in 1847 as detailed below.  Would there be any other records that would give me any clues as to where he was born.?  As he was an Agricultural Labourer, I wouldnt image he would have left a will.

Any suggestions for other areas of research I could look at would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Sunday 29 May 11 07:08 BST (UK)
As you said some years ago, both Thomas and Sarah were aged 60 in 1841, neither born in Beds. Thus their implied births were between 1775 and 1781, although their ages at burial imply births of 1771 and 1772.

As Narroway should be an easier name to research than Green, have you found where Sarah was from? Perhaps Thomas was from the same parish, possibly in Bucks.

I can't see that either of them left a will.

Did the marriage entry give a parish of residence for either, other than otp? Do the witnesses give a clue?

Have you checked parish chest entries in Leighton Buzzard to see if he had a settlement certificate?

David
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: caron on Sunday 29 May 11 12:35 BST (UK)
Thank you for your reply. Sarah Narroway came from Pitstone in Bucks. I have done some research on her tree.  Thomas Death was 6/6/1847 aged 76, he was a labourer.  Sarah Greens death was 16/6/1848 aged 76, widow of Thomas Green Labourer.

Thomas Green and Sarah Narroway married All Saints Leighton Buzzard 11/10/1796.  The witnesses are hard to deceipher but it looks like Thomas Barnes (mark) not signature and Wm Hoatheate.  They were both of this parish.
I havent checked parish chest records to see if he had a settlement certificate? Where can I find this out from?

This is all the information I have to go on.  It is such a common name as well which makes it even harder.
Thanks
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Sunday 29 May 11 19:46 BST (UK)
If they've survived they should be held at BLARS in Bedford. They may also have been filmed by the LDS so should be available to order and view at your nearest LDS Family History Centre

David
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: caron on Monday 30 May 11 10:20 BST (UK)
Thank you David.
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: notelehj on Wednesday 10 August 11 18:12 BST (UK)
Hello!  I am doing family research on Greens and can't find anything.  I have a Sarah Green born March 25, 1832 in Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire who married a John Parrott from Devonshire in Canada.  I cannot find a thing on Sarah.  Any hints on where else to look? 

Thank you
Heather
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: caron on Thursday 11 August 11 11:01 BST (UK)
Have you checked that she had not married before and therefore would have been born with a different surname. I understand all parish records for Beds are on the IGI, so it is strange that her baptism isnt there. Does she say she comes from LB?
It may be worth speaking with the Bedfordshire Records office - they were very helpful when I paid for them to help me with my own research at LB.


  http://www.bedfordshire.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/ArchivesAndRecordOffice/FamilyHistory/FamilyHistoryResearchInBedfordshire.aspx


Do  you have any further information on her?

Hope you solve this! Perhaps some other Root chatters can help on this!
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: notelehj on Friday 12 August 11 05:30 BST (UK)
Thank you for some good ideas. 

Her father was George Green born in 1796 who was married to a Mary (no last name known) born 1802- died 1837.
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Friday 12 August 11 09:03 BST (UK)
I understand all parish records for Beds are on the IGI, so it is strange that her baptism isnt there.

Virtually all Beds baptisms and marriages pre 1813 have been extracted onto the IGI. Post 1812 entries not are so well covered.

Perhaps the family was non-conformist, or perhaps she was simply wasn't baptised. Or perhaps she was baptised in Buckinghamshire, which is very close to Leighton Buzzard.

But Leighton Buzzard baptisms for this period are on the IGI and there are no baptisms at all of children of George and Mary. When did she emigrate? Have you found her in the 1841 census?

There's no burial of a Mary Green in Leighton Buzzard in 1837. There is however a Mary Green aged 24 buried at Potsgrove, a couple of miles from LB, on 14 Feb 1837. You'd need to check the parish register to see if she's described as the wife of George. The IGI has a marriage of George Green and Mary Evans on 11 Oct 1831 at Milton Bryant, a mile from Potsgrove.

Where are George and Mary's birthdates from?
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: notelehj on Friday 12 August 11 18:04 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for that information.  I will continue to dig with the new information you gave to see if it goes in the right direction. 
I am continuing the work of searching for ancestors that my mother started putting together from several sources.  This information my mother had gotten from a relative many years ago.  He is no longer alive to ask more questions and clarify anything. 
Yes, eventually the family did immigrate to the U.S. but I don't have all that information with me at the moment. 
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: Tracylincs on Friday 23 December 11 18:20 GMT (UK)
Dear Caron,

I come from a very long line of Bonham's based in and around Leighton Buzzard and have 9 Sarah Bonham's on my tree but alas not your's (or so it seems at the moment!!).  Do you have any further info on her?  Let me know and I'll help out any way I can.

Tracylincs
Title: Re: Surname interest. Thomas and George Green Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire
Post by: caron on Tuesday 03 January 12 16:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your message. My Sarah Bonham married George Green 21 April 1822 in Bierton Bucks
She was a spinster of the parish of Bierton.  The witnesses were William and Elizabeth Bonham. I think she was born about 1802 and she died  1825 aged 23.  They  had two children together Thomas Green 1824 and Hannah 1823.  George Green was from Leighton buzzard and I believe they may have moved there.

I havent got her baptism details and I dont know if Willilam and Elizasbeth mentioned above are her parents.

Does anyone have access to the Bierton Parish records to check this for me please?

If you find this sarah in your tree perhaps you can let me know.
Many thanks