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Title: " They Came from Dumfries"
Post by: thommoje on Sunday 12 November 06 23:09 GMT (UK)
     
       Having a frustraying time researching my HISLOP / HYSLOP forbears. I have traced back to this couple , Richard Hislop (a blacksmith in Glasgow from about 1800 onwards ) and his wife Isabella Hardie.
       Her 1855 death cert . states that she was from Falkirk , born circa 1777 but of course  , Richard was deceased before official records were required.
       An aunt told us that the Hislops "came from Dumfries" , so if anyone has a Richard Hyslop born circa  1775in their tree , I would love to hear from you.
        Richard and Isabella`s first son was John, so if the naming pattern was adhered to, Richard`s father in Dumfries could have been John Hyslop - but beware of red herrings!
           Hope to hear from another Hislop researcher, Regards, Thommoje
Title: Re: " They Came from Dumfries"
Post by: argyllshiregirl on Monday 08 December 14 15:03 GMT (UK)
Hello Thommoje,

I don't have much to offer 8 years later on, but I just wanted to say I am a HYSLOP descendant too and my HYSLOPS did come "from Dumfriesshire" that much I know. My 3x great grandmother was Jean HYSLOP born 1787, married James LAIDLAW in 1818, and died in 1862. I have not delved any further into the HYSLOP tree.

Mary
in Canada
Title: Re: " They Came from Dumfries"
Post by: Skoosh on Monday 08 December 14 22:25 GMT (UK)
Great variation in spellings of this, Black, in his "Scottish Surnames" has the earliest Hislop (hazel-hope), Alexander, in Edinburgh 1425.
I think a "Hope" is the farm at the head of a glen, south Scotland. 
Glasgow 1446 then Houston, Kelso & Stow.
An Alexander Hesillip is in Carsphairn in 1684 so that could be your Hislop's?

Skoosh.
Title: Re: " They Came from Dumfries"
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 08 December 14 23:14 GMT (UK)
Skoosh,

Not only with this entry but with so many other's..................the variations of name spelling is beyond comprehension & it is unbelievable how so many people researching will not budge from the spelling they think it ought to be  ::)

This one is a great example of how names change !!!  :)

Annie
Title: Re: " They Came from Dumfries"
Post by: argyllshiregirl on Tuesday 09 December 14 17:42 GMT (UK)
Annie,

You are right! I have TUDHOPE in my tree too and it has been TUTOP, TUDHOP, TYTOP and more. My husband has CUTHBERTSON and I once accidentally found one of his relatives named Oswald CUTHBERTSON recorded as Oswell CULVERSON! So many variants. It's enough to boggle the mind!

Mary
Title: Re: " They Came from Dumfries"
Post by: thommoje on Wednesday 11 February 15 21:57 GMT (UK)

 Hi Skoosh
Great variation in spellings of this, Black, in his "Scottish Surnames" has the earliest Hislop (hazel-hope), Alexander, in Edinburgh 1425.
I think a "Hope" is the farm at the head of a glen, south Scotland. 
Glasgow 1446 then Houston, Kelso & Stow.
An Alexander Hesillip is in Carsphairn in 1684 so that could be your Hislop's?

Skoosh.
I solved that mystery some time ago but Skoosh was quite close to the truth of the matter in her reference to Hazelhope. My G G Grandfather did not come from Dumfries, he came from Stockton on Tees and his name was Heslehurst ( spelling variations being Hesslehurst , Haselhurst  etc etc ).He had been in the North York Militia ( in marriage record he is " Richard Hesslehurst , Soldier in Nth York Militia" - met his future wife in Glasgow and they married there in 1799 - went back to Yorkshire where two sons were born - then must have decided to return to Glasgow to live.
             In doing so, he would seem to be deserting his militia obligations ( a possible hanging offence at the time ) so that could be the reason for the name change. Heslop was a common name in Yorkshire but crossing the border in to Scotland it becomes Hi/yslop. This couple married as Heslehurst but returned as Hyslop. Most of the subsequent families eventually adopted the Hislop spelling though a few persisted with Hyslop .
            I was able to solve the mystery because a cousin in Scotland had contacted an elderly cousin whose father had seen the record of the name change in the Family Bible - would love to know where that Bible is!
            Oh what a tangled web we weave! Thanks all for your interest,      Thommoje