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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Kent => England => Kent Lookup Requests => Topic started by: atth2o on Sunday 12 November 06 17:13 GMT (UK)
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Hello All,
Would anyone have access to Parish Chest information for Borden, Kent or Iwade, Kent? I am looking for further information about my GG grandfather. He was born out of wedlock and was baptised in Borden on December 23, 1804.
Marshal son of Sophia Atwater
On all census (1851 to 1881), Marshal has listed that he was born in Iwade so it is quite possible that he was born there and baptised in Borden.
Surname variations include ATWATER, ATTWATER & HATWATER
Any help is greatly appreciated. :-*
Nancy Attwater
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Hello Nancy
Don't know whether this is any help but Marshall Attwood with wife Ann, William aged 4 and Marshall George aged 2 were removed from Milton Regis to Iwade 26 October 1829.
Barbara
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Hi Barbara,
I do have a copy of that Removal order. Interesting that you have it under ATTWOOD as my copy has it under ATTWATER ??? I appreciate your time in looking for me. Thank you.
Nancy
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Nancy
Sorry :-[
Definitely says ATTWATER
Barbara
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Hi Barbara,
Thanks for that correction. I was thinking that I would have to start looking at a whole new name variation. :o Whew! :P That was a close one as there are many more Attwoods than there are Attwaters.
Nancy
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Hi Nancy, i am sure you have the info you were asking for by now. I have been interested i n researching the atwater side of my family. My G grandmother was effield atwater who married henry helman. I know there was a marshal atwater , do you no of any link between him and effield?
Hoping you can help. Sue
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Hi Sue,
Thanks for you interest in the Attwater family. Yes, Effield is in my family tree. What information do you already know and I can fill you in on what I do know. Where are you located?
Nancy
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Hi Nancy.
I know her parents names and that she had a brother Richard, this is thanks to other members posting this info.
my grandmother who was one of Effield's daughters never spoke about her parents.
I am located in Ramsgate kent, which ironically is only approx an hours journey from Iwade. I had hoped to visit Hoo area during the schol holidays, but family illness means this is no longer possiblr.
Anything you can share while i am confined to barracks will be appreciated.
Souza
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Hi Sue,
It has been a while since I researched this family so there may be further information available now. I am in Canada so thie information I have has been pretty much online.
Effield Hart ATTWATER was the daughter of Richard Marshall and Mary Ann Attwater (Maiden name unknown) If you purchase her birth certificate, it will give you her mother's maiden name.
Sept 1886, Milton, 2a 892.
Effield lived in Hoo during the 1891 & 1901 census. She married Harry Helman on May 25, 1901 at St Mary Chatham, Kent. The image is on the City Arc website.
She had two children that I know of, Cressy and Arnold. This information was given to me by a family member who has now passed. (he was her nephew) I have not searched any further on the children.
Effield had two brother's - Richard and Ernest. Richard died in WW1 on the HMS Cressy. A name that Effield gave her daughter. Ernest married May Eveline Law and went on to have 13 children.
Are you able to give me any further information on you grandmother? Was she Cressy or was there another daughter?
Nancy
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Hi Nancy.
My grandmother was Doris and was born 16th May 1910. As well as Cressy , who i once met, there was Gladys, Ivy, Hilda, Ethel, Edith and Florence, i am sure there were others but cannot remember at the moment. I did not know there was a brother.I vaguely recall mention of Marshal Attwater,a family story was that he was connected to the Salvation Army, i have no idea if there is any truth in this.
Doris married Alfred John Stevens in Feburuary 1933 in Dartford Kent. They had 2 daughters, my mother Joy , and my aunt Shirley Ann. Neither of them can shed any light on Effield or Richard Atwater.
I am intrigued as to where the middle name HART may have come from.
Thank you for having taken the time to help me.
Souza
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Hi Sue,
I would be happy to let you know what I know about the family tree. I have traced back 4 more generations from Effield. It is a very large amount of information.
If you would like to share information with more detail I would suggest that you send me a personal message through Rootschat with your email details. If you click on my name (atth2o), it will take you to a details page. At the bottom of the page you will see highlighted in blue "Send this rootschatter a person message". Here you can send me a private message that will not be posted to the general public.
Nancy
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Since you started your search many more Kent records are now available online :D
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home
Hopefully you will find some entries to help with your research.
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Hi bearkat,
Thanks for the link. I will check it out. I off searching my other lines with the hope that there would be more information when I got back to my Attwater line.
I appreciate your time in sending the info to me. Have a great day.
Nancy
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Hi Nancy i don't know if you are still on this site, if you are.
My Grandmother Was May Eveline Helman, Born 1911, her mother was Effield Hart Attwater and her father was Henry Helman. Effield and Henry had a few children My nan being one of them, They are the same people as you are talking about as my mother talks about her nan and grandad quite a lot as well as her aunts and uncles (Effield's children) i will find out what i can for you if you are still looking.
Tracy
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hello Tracy
My Grandmother was also a Helman and was a sister of May. Her name was Doris, i would love to know anything that you know about her, as she never spoke of her parents Effield and Henry. I do recollect meeting some of her sisters when i was a child (a long time ago).
I look forward to hearing from you.
Souza