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Title: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: pettsy on Saturday 11 November 06 10:59 GMT (UK)
Hi my grandad was with the London Irish Rifles, he was a Sgt then went on to be Company Sgt Major.

I am trying to buy the Stripes and the crown he would have worn.

I am unsure of the Sgt Stripes, dad said they were very dark green almost black, can any confirm or attach a pic please?

I know the CSM Crown I need is Kings Crown, but cannot find on for sale.

We are planning to visit the London Irish Rifles Museum in two weeks, doe's anyone know if they have a shop there?

Thank you.

Pettsy
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: Kelly/Parker on Tuesday 23 October 07 12:31 BST (UK)
Hello Pettsy, not answering your question unfortunately but my Grandfather was in the 2/18th London Irish Rifles which lot are you interested in. I am trying to find anyone looking into 2/18th as I have a photo. Julie
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: pettsy on Tuesday 23 October 07 14:29 BST (UK)
Hi Julie,

I just asked my dad, and yes he said his dad was in the 2/18th London Irish Rifles.

Where did your grandad serve in WW2?
Mine went to Nigeria and Burma.

I would love to see you photo.


Pettsy
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: Kelly/Parker on Tuesday 23 October 07 18:21 BST (UK)
Hi Pettsy, got our wires crossed I'm afraid my Grandad was in WW1 and I understood that they were wound up whilst he was in Jerusalem when he transferred into Royal Irish Fusiliers. Julie
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: pettsy on Tuesday 23 October 07 18:33 BST (UK)
Hi Julie,

And dad just phoned me to say his dad was in 1/18th.

May I see your photo out of interest please.
Was you father from/living in Chelsea?

Pettsy
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: Kelly/Parker on Wednesday 24 October 07 11:57 BST (UK)
Hello Pettsy, My Grandfather was my Mothers father and he was born in Chelsea and lived there. When he married they were living in Hammersmith, where my mum was born and then moved out to Carshalton. How do I go about sending you the photo. Can I attach it to a message? Julie
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: pettsy on Wednesday 24 October 07 17:51 BST (UK)
I will send you a PM.

Pettsy
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: Kelly/Parker on Wednesday 24 October 07 17:52 BST (UK)
Thanks Pettsy

Julie
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: scrimnet on Wednesday 24 October 07 23:38 BST (UK)
Try www.divpatch.com they will run up a copy for you of the correct colour, size etc.

Nice people as well....And cheaper and easier than running around various websites....
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: pettsy on Thursday 25 October 07 08:56 BST (UK)
Hi scrimnet

I wil contact them this evening.
Thank you.

Pettsy
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: Combover on Tuesday 10 April 12 07:59 BST (UK)
I'm going to apologise now for the thread resurrection but have noticed a few unanswered questions regarding the LIR so here goes:

The LIR wore Black on Rifle Green stripes. All of their rank insignia was this colour combination and is very distinctive.

The best place to get them from is monty's locker. http://www.montyslocker.co.uk/

He uses the correct cloth and is licensed by the MOD to do it.

As a WW2 LIR re-enactor, I portray a Serjeant and have done heaps of reserch so if there's anything I can help you with, please PM me.

Best wishes all,

Tom
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: Kelly/Parker on Tuesday 10 April 12 08:06 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Tom. My Grandfather (Mum's side) was in London Irish Rifles in WW1 2/18th ended up being disbanded out in Jerusalem I believe. I do have a photo of him with a lot of other men. Unfortunately no names, apparently like many other he never spoke about the war  according to Mum.
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: Combover on Tuesday 10 April 12 08:20 BST (UK)
Morning.

Unfortunately despite their fancy name, the LIR weren't really considered anything special by WW1/WW2 (They were of course, as were ALL our fighting men and women) so unless photos were annotated by the person who took them (and in the case of Army photographers, they were) then there will be no record of who they were or what the were doing at the time...

It's an unfortunate fact that there were that many people fighting and dying, nobody thought the average Tommy was a special case... It's an even more unfortunate fact that many didn't want to or were unable to talk about it. It's just not when men of the time did.
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: scrimnet on Wednesday 11 April 12 09:19 BST (UK)
I'm going to apologise now for the thread resurrection but have noticed a few unanswered questions regarding the LIR so here goes:

The LIR wore Black on Rifle Green stripes. All of their rank insignia was this colour combination and is very distinctive.

The best place to get them from is monty's locker. http://www.montyslocker.co.uk/

He uses the correct cloth and is licensed by the MOD to do it.

As a WW2 LIR re-enactor, I portray a Serjeant and have done heaps of reserch so if there's anything I can help you with, please PM me.

Best wishes all,

Tom

Derrick is an old Scaley Back and is indeed the best around now...

So, you do LIR?? Not part of The Rifles LHS then?? With Lawrence and co??
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: Combover on Wednesday 11 April 12 19:15 BST (UK)
I'm not, no. I run my own WW2 group.
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: Combover on Saturday 30 June 12 23:04 BST (UK)
A bit late in coming but here you go. Here is the insignia of a Serjeant of the 1st Battalion London Irish Rifles, 56th London Division in WW2. The cloth rank insignia was very similar for WW1.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/24qlngk.jpg)

And below is the insignia of an officer, a 2nd Lt, of the same regiment:

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2885p2s.jpg)

Quite distinctive insignia isn't it?
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: jc26red on Sunday 01 July 12 00:19 BST (UK)
Ooooh I'm pleased this thread has been bought to the top again, I must have missed it first time round.

Hi Kelly/Parker, my father in law's cousin was in th London Irish Rifles 2/18th.  And I would love to see a copy of the photo you have. 
Austin Creed survived WW1...just! He was injured but sadly died of TB 4 July 1920, unmarried. We have his medals apart from his SWB but no photo.  He too was born in Fulham and lived in Hammersmith, sadly the family home was bombed out during WW2.

I will send you a pm
best wishes
Jenny  :)
Title: Re: London Irish Rifles Sgt Stripes help
Post by: Kelly/Parker on Sunday 09 February 14 07:01 GMT (UK)
Jenny, I have just been going over old entries that I made on various sites and have come across this one. Did I ever send you a copy of the photo? Julie